Report Those User Agreement Violations!

[Dragoy]

Ziyyigo-Tipyigo,

I liked your previous recent signature much more, though obviously it would have been a violation as well. Ð:

Also, who or what is “Sybil”?


In all seriousness, there would not be many a post if those rules were enforced to the letter (cough, same for in-game stuff). For one, this exact thing about criticising, and for another, how on-topic everything should be (everything needs to be related to FFXI and so on, so on...).

It's more than likely up for the judgement of a moderator dealing with a certain post at a given time, so there usually is some leeway. Of course, I'm merely speculating, and one could speculate on the life-span of this thread just as well, no matter how 'correct' and right-on-topic it is. =/

(It might incite unwanted posts and all that nice stuff.)

I do agree though, that everyone should make use of the report feature though only when one personally deems it necessary, not because “that guy with the onion-cut told me to”. ^^

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I liked your previous recent signature much more, though obviously it would have been a violation as well. Ð:

Yeah, I decided I need to be "by the book" from this point on, have all my ducks in a row, etc.

Also, who or what is “Sybil”?

Typo fixed. >.>

It's more than likely up for the judgement of a moderator dealing with a certain post at a given time,

Yeah, in my opinion (IANAL), the Agreement is written to allow Square Enix discretion on deciding when and how disciplinary action is taken. But there is a difference between "discretionary" and "arbitrary," and I would like to make sure enforcement on these forums doesn't end up in the latter category.

I do find myself questioning the great apparent need to enforce the "no criticism" clause, but I do so in only a positive and constructive way!

that guy with the onion-cut

All these years and it never occurred to me that it looked like an onion (a star onion?). I always assumed it was an acorn...

[Dragoy]

I do find myself questioning the great apparent need to enforce the "no criticism" clause, but I do so in only a positive and constructive way!

Agreed. I also find it very, VERY silly if that what you had in the signature was indeed a reason for action for them...
I mean come ooon. >.>

All these years and it never occurred to me that it looked like an onion (a star onion?). I always assumed it was an acorn...

Heh, well I think I thought of it as an onion at first/always I guess. Acorn might be more accurate, though.

S.O.B., good point. Perhaps a Star Onion Brigadier indeed...
One of my earliest quests ever completed, ha!

[Glamdring]

ok, why do I get this sense of an impending "Bitch-Slap of Doom!"?

phear the pimp hand... it may come for you

[Draylo]

Please report all the Doomsday prophets, ty

[Camiie]

The Square Enix Staff uses an ugly model in game, has a thumbnail that doesn't even match the item, can only be equipped by jobs that would never use it, has pathetic stats for its level, and has much too low a drop rate.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

After further research, I think I've devised something of a decision matrix/flowchart for posting!

• You may not "damage or disparage" the company, the forum, the game, or "others." That last category seems to include "each other."
• As for "criticism," only "Square Enix staff or specific individuals" are protected. Again, this seems to include "each other" (boy, those mods must be a busy lot!). However, this still leaves the game itself, as well as these forums, open to criticism!

Also open to criticism are groups (not "specific individuals") and apparently any other aspect of Square Enix that can't be described as "staff" (contractors? suppliers? shareholders?).

Of course, the difference between "criticize" and "disparage" is probably up to the "discretion" of Square Enix. Mods' will be done, on forums as it is in game...

[wildsprite]

last I checked as long as you keep it civil you can criticize anything on these forums, that being against the rules would go against the point of these forums to begin with

besides that, if you have a real problem with a staff member, the forums isn't the place to put it, the higher ups of SE aren't likely going to read the forums unless a problem is brought to their attention, calling out said staff member on the forums would be pointless

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

last I checked as long as you keep it civil you can criticize anything on these forums,

"De facto" and "de jure" are two different things. I already provided a link where you can read for yourself the letter of the Agreement you signed.

besides that, if you have a real problem with a staff member

From my own direct experience, I can tell you that "Square Enix staff" seems to include the staff as a whole (e. g. no criticizing "the devs") as well as individual staff members. Criticizing FINAL FANTASY XI itself is implicitly permitted, but anything more "meta" than that (such as Square Enix's publishing or staffing decisions, which are external to the game itself) is not allowed in these forums.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

So an actual worthwhile thread like the one on .dat's goes, yet this pointless junk created by someone who's just mad they got banned is still around, how?