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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    I'd be happy just to hear more of what's gonna be in the next major expansion, not too worried about when the servers actually go back up really
    Most rational players are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    And I have to disagree. The constitutional right of free speech is not just the actual spoken word, it also covers written word, in ANY public fashion. Read the law.
    The law says that the US Government cannot censor you in a public forum (be it spoken word, written, etc). "Freedom of Speech" has no bearing on a private company.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    It might be their forum, but if it's public, they are not allowed to censor.
    You just contradicted yourself. If it's their forum, then it is NOT public. This is really no different than if you woke up one day and someone you hired to paint your house was on your lawn tagging your house with graffiti. They have the right to be there, but they can't say "freedom of speech" about the graffiti because it is your personal property.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    And at the very least they are certainly not allowed to link your game account to a forum post and ban you from the game for a comment on a forum. If they ban someone from the forum, that's all well and good imo, but don't threaten to ban me in-game as well.
    If the terms and conditions that you agreed to when you signed up to post here say that they can, then 'yes', they are allowed to do that.
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    Not everything is America, so don't bring up the Constitution in a JAPANESE RUN/CREATED website.
    This is probably created and run from America, same rules apply though ofc. The internet doesn't have any free speech laws.
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    Yeah, let's not get off-topic. Me recieving a PM with the (laugh) threat of a ban because I speak my mind is not the point of this forum.

    As stated before, other MMO gaming companies with servers based in Japan are already back online and business as usual. I realize that they are human beings and I do sympathize with their plight, don't get me wrong, but business is business. If you accept money from someone for a service you provide, regardless of any influences it is your job to make sure that service is rendered. The free month is all well and good, but if the servers are going to be down into April, that free month imo don't mean squat. If that happens and the servers must stay down into April, then they better start talking about making May a free month as well. A free month to me is only good if you can play the game the entire month.

    Also as stated before, SE's employees can certainly be right at the helm of censoring and removing content here on these forums but they can't keep us updated in a regular fashion about the status of the server reconnecton? I don't buy that. What the OP wants here is information as to when exactly the servers will be reinstated, and other MMO gaming companies based in Japan have had no problem with giving EXACT info when they will be back up. So why can't SE?

    In before I get called a callous, rude, uncaring individual who has no respect for human life, all because I want a business to actually be responsible if they are going to take my money every month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    Yes they actually did this. And I have to disagree. The constitutional right of free speech is not just the actual spoken word, it also covers written word, in ANY public fashion. Read the law. It might be their forum, but if it's public, they are not allowed to censor. And at the very least they are certainly not allowed to link your game account to a forum post and ban you from the game for a comment on a forum. If they ban someone from the forum, that's all well and good imo, but don't threaten to ban me in-game as well.
    1, 1st Amendment freedom of speech only applies to the government. Read the law.

    2, Heres the simple answer don't play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    In before I get called a callous, rude, uncaring individual who has no respect for human life, all because I want a business to actually be responsible if they are going to take my money every month.
    You're a callous, rude, uncaring individual who has no respect for human life. Not because you want a business to actually be responsible if they are going to take your money every month. But because you try to hide it behind the fact you care about SE being a business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    This is probably created and run from America, same rules apply though ofc. The internet doesn't have any free speech laws.
    13 289 ms 286 ms 292 ms squareco.asianetcom.net [203.192.149.210]
    14 322 ms 297 ms 300 ms 61.195.56.121

    Most definitely in Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiibi View Post
    You're a callous, rude, uncaring individual who has no respect for human life. Not because you want a business to actually be responsible if they are going to take your money every month. But because you try to hide it behind the fact you care about SE being a business.
    Thanks for the lol. And to the others that are still ranting about my post on freedom of speech, read my last post, and let it go already. My apologies for posting it. Let's stay on topic people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    As stated before, other MMO gaming companies with servers based in Japan are already back online and business as usual. I realize that they are human beings and I do sympathize with their plight, don't get me wrong, but business is business. If you accept money from someone for a service you provide, regardless of any influences it is your job to make sure that service is rendered. The free month is all well and good, but if the servers are going to be down into April, that free month imo don't mean squat. If that happens and the servers must stay down into April, then they better start talking about making May a free month as well. A free month to me is only good if you can play the game the entire month.

    Also as stated before, SE's employees can certainly be right at the helm of censoring and removing content here on these forums but they can't keep us updated in a regular fashion about the status of the server reconnecton? I don't buy that. What the OP wants here is information as to when exactly the servers will be reinstated, and other MMO gaming companies based in Japan have had no problem with giving EXACT info when they will be back up. So why can't SE?

    In before I get called a callous, rude, uncaring individual who has no respect for human life, all because I want a business to actually be responsible if they are going to take my money every month.
    The company ISN'T taking your money this month. That means legally they can take 30 days off without putting the servers back up. If they need more time, they will extend their "free" period for as long as they need to.

    We were told it would be gone until AT LEAST this Sunday. We are not due for another update until then. I understand you're going through withdrawal here as I'm sure a lot of people are, but we are not owed any more updates until the end of the weekend.

    There is no reason to post repeatedly that you think SE is holding back information from us. It is very likely that SE doesn't know themselves if they will be back. They are at the mercy of the power company. None of us have any idea how SE or Sony or anything other company there is physically setup to run, so judging one based on another is pointless.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    If that happens and the servers must stay down into April, then they better start talking about making May a free month as well. A free month to me is only good if you can play the game the entire month.
    Wow, so you want a BONUS of free time because of the earthquake/tsunami? I can't believe you're actually threatening SE if they can't come back online quick enough for you... Just, wow....
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    Personally I don't care about being unable to play, I don't even have anything to do if I could log on..

    I do care that this could damage a game I think a lot of though, I havent played FFXI for a while now but I've never once let my subs drop on mine or my sisters accounts.
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