HNMs and the future of FFXI

[Benihana]

Well, which way is it? One type of player needs to be appeased or both or just you?


That is your take on what should be exclusive. And, that is why the majority don't want to see their return. If all the drops occurred in other places than the HNM's, then I could get behind it. But, again, if it's going this way, then no.


khim,cerb,tia...Pretty sure that those popped in a fairly limited area. And for SW/DI, people still had programs they used to assist them that allowed them to have less people across the zones. While not as big a deal, it still shows that people will break the TOS to claim these things.


Because some people fall into this category, does not mean all people fall into this category. Nice attempt to paint everyone who does not like these with the same brush.


Having Free Time ≠ Being Skilled

I feel like you meandered all over the place in that post. Also, it's pretty obvious that S/E has shunned the HNM crowd. So saying they should not only add this back in but then cater to it, will not happen. S/E is not going to exclusively appeal to a population in the game which is currently in a very small minority. And, because there are many more visually snazzy options out there, new people who are interested in HNM's are not suddenly going to flock to the game if they go this route. So, demanding the 'all or nothing' route is a failed campaign.

I was just expressing my opinion.

I never said the game should revolve around the mechanic, I said it should be included and encouraged. Its part of a specific type of endgame that appeals to some. My opinion on the state of ffxi endgame atm is simply, the only thing missing is that mechanic. It's no different now, than it was at 75.

Heres a question, did you ever even fight or camp cerb,khim,tia ? Cause you said to your knowledge... Doesn't sound like you know wtf when it comes to them. Nobody was sitting around botting them unless they popped really late in window. Again, you are delusional if you think otherwise. lol...

[Randwolf]

Doesn't sound like you know wtf when it comes to them. Nobody was sitting around botting them unless they popped really late in window. Again, you are delusional if you think otherwise. lol...

Yes, I did camp them. We did them less than Nid, KB, Aspi. But, we did them. Let me clear that up for you. "Unless you know of some magical place they spawn that I didn't know about, then the pop in a relatively small area." Better? It's so hard to convey sarcasm and derision in a forum post.

And, you just contradicted yourself, AGAIN. First you say no one uses bots on those. And, then they only use them if it was a late window. Do you even read your own posts before you post them? But, that is the attitude that people don't want to return. "Oh yeah, we used a bot because it was out of our region's window. And, that's why we killed it so slow the past few times. We were trying to keep it in our region's window."

The more you talk, the more it is apparent that in no way should these things ever return.

[Benihana]

Yes, I did camp them. We did them less than Nid, KB, Aspi. But, we did them. Let me clear that up for you. "Unless you know of some magical place they spawn that I didn't know about, then the pop in a relatively small area." Better? It's so hard to convey sarcasm and derision in a forum post.

And, you just contradicted yourself, AGAIN. First you say no one uses bots on those. And, then they only use them if it was a late window. Do you even read your own posts before you post them? But, that is the attitude that people don't want to return. "Oh yeah, we used a bot because it was out of our region's window. And, that's why we killed it so slow the past few times. We were trying to keep it in our region's window."

The more you talk, the more it is apparent that in no way should these things ever return.

Poor guy. You really aren't very good at reading comprehension are you?


I'm standing by my statement that most of the time, it was only kings that were abused with third party tools. The more you talk, the more clear it is, you don't know wtf.

[Habu]

Just got word that HNMs are indeed coming back.

[Randwolf]

Poor guy. You really aren't very good at reading comprehension are you?


I'm standing by my statement that most of the time, it was only kings that were abused with third party tools. The more you talk, the more clear it is, you don't know wtf.

Actually, it's more along the line of you not writing very clearly. With all your free time and no HNM's to bot, you might consider taking a class or two.

p.s. - "The idea that people sat around and botted,khim,cerb,tia,ixion,sw, is ludicris." They did or they didn't.

[Benihana]

Actually, it's more along the line of you not writing very clearly. With all your free time and no HNM's to bot, you might consider taking a class or two.

Somebody is MAYAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Randwolf]

Somebody is MAYAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Nope, just amazed that some people think they are making a coherent argument when it is anything but.

[Benihana]

Just got word that HNMs are indeed coming back.

Whered you see this information?

[FrankReynolds]

If you have a Bot for other NMs and your camping an NM... why the hell wouldn't you use the Bot? That's just retarded. This thread gets dumber and dumbererer.

[svengalis]

I'll assume you probably never really efficiently claimed HNMs before so you've probably never experienced the thrill of claiming one way back when. People actually took pride in the gear they obtained then because it actually took some effort to get it. It adds a sense of competition that the game is lacking in an endgame setting not including PvP. What's the difference from sitting at a camp waiting for a NM pop rather than sitting in Port Jeuno waiting for a VW shout? Nothing. Yes you could make a VW party but in the time it takes to fill the party, organize jobs, and kill that set it would equal the 3 hours you spent at a camp. Did you miss the part where I mentioned 21-24 hours HNMs and last time I checked Tiamat was a 48 hour NM.

The big difference is with VW you're gauranteed to attempt to kill it after taking "3 hours" to set up that alliance.