HNMs and the future of FFXI

[Habu]

I think the game in it's current state is focused mainly on casual gameplay, but what about those who still want to play the game as it was in the past? There's no real content (outside of final chamber Legion) that focuses on people who are wanting harder game content. Now I'm not advocating that HNMs in the past were hard but they were fun to camp (at least the 21-24 repop ones). I believe that bringing back/recreation of HNMs in some form and I don't mean buy a pop item and go out there to spawn them, would bring some life back to the endgame community. There's no real competition left in the game, and I know I speak for at least a few of the older generation players who say that they miss this thrill. So my question to the reps, do you think there will EVER be any new timespawned HNMs that will drop gear that is worthwhile?

[Alhanelem]

I don't think anybody misses the thrill of sitting at a camp spot for hours on end waiting for an NM to pop. Ah, I loved trying to gather people for a quest or BCNM then OH SHIT TIAMAT POP EVERYONE RUN OUT then you get there, some botter LS claims it, and you sit there for 7 hours while they can't kill the damn thing hoping they wipe but they don't. So thrilling! The only way you could miss this is if you are the person or the LS that started drama at every opportunity.

When you spend more time playing iSketch or some other game being idle on FFXI, you know you haven't designed content well.

[Habu]

I'll assume you probably never really efficiently claimed HNMs before so you've probably never experienced the thrill of claiming one way back when. People actually took pride in the gear they obtained then because it actually took some effort to get it. It adds a sense of competition that the game is lacking in an endgame setting not including PvP. What's the difference from sitting at a camp waiting for a NM pop rather than sitting in Port Jeuno waiting for a VW shout? Nothing. Yes you could make a VW party but in the time it takes to fill the party, organize jobs, and kill that set it would equal the 3 hours you spent at a camp. Did you miss the part where I mentioned 21-24 hours HNMs and last time I checked Tiamat was a 48 hour NM.

[saevel]

I'll assume you probably never really efficiently claimed HNMs before so you've probably never experienced the thrill of claiming one way back when. People actually took pride in the gear they obtained then because it actually took some effort to get it. It adds a sense of competition that the game is lacking in an endgame setting not including PvP. What's the difference from sitting at a camp waiting for a NM pop rather than sitting in Port Jeuno waiting for a VW shout? Nothing. Yes you could make a VW party but in the time it takes to fill the party, organize jobs, and kill that set it would equal the 3 hours you spent at a camp. Did you miss the part where I mentioned 21-24 hours HNMs and last time I checked Tiamat was a 48 hour NM.

WTF horse hocky is this?

Thrill .. .... "efficiently claim".....

Pray tell, oh master of unseen knowledge, HOW DO YOU EFFICIENTLY CLAIM a world spawned HNM?

/ja Provoke <t>

and that's pretty much it.

Unless your talking about boting, which was a plague and a disease on the game.

So take your claptrap and go away.

[Habu]

Oh yes the only HNMs that are 21-24 hour are ones that are in BD, VoS, and Dragon's Aery, which requires only "spam" voking. Please go /ja "Provoke" Dark Ixion and tell me how that will work out for you. Yes beating the piss out of your Provoke macro will claim you an NM as soon as you see it, it doesn't take the patience to give it a few before using provoke. I know sarcasm is hard to pick up over the internet so I'll go ahead and say that last sentence was laid thick with it.

[Zerich]

Oh yes the only HNMs that are 21-24 hour are ones that are in BD, VoS, and Dragon's Aery, which requires only "spam" voking. Please go /ja "Provoke" Dark Ixion and tell me how that will work out for you. Yes beating the piss out of your Provoke macro will claim you an NM as soon as you see it, it doesn't take the patience to give it a few before using provoke. I know sarcasm is hard to pick up over the internet so I'll go ahead and say that last sentence was laid thick with it.

no one wants HNM...
btw (/ja "Chi Blast" <stnpc>) or gtfo

[Habu]

Guess you're all just too casual to understand

Edit: Just tired of mobs where all you have to do is proc > kill or pop a brew.

[Zerich]

Guess you're all just too casual to understand

For a taru, your INT stat is pretty gimped.
What, you mad that the game is more accessible than before?

[Habu]

Never said that, but there should be something that caters to those who still take the game a little more seriously than VW and making more Emps. Legion has sufficed for that until you beat final chamber, which is the only chamber that requires any real effort.

[newmonkey]

Actually there is a lot of people who stil want hnms to come bck myself included, the game is in a terrible state there is lots of stuff for the casual players to do. So yes they should add some hnms for the people who want to do that and now with the new odin coming they can add the furture hnm drops to him like they did in the past so the casuals still have a chance at the gear.

That been said good luck getting people to back it on here.