Salvage profit and you

[Monchat]

Getting to the boss is harder than killing the boss with /DNC. With a mule to 2box you can clear everything. And people seem to forget they can do Dynamis and Salvage.

pretty sure its impossible to kill SSR boss solo as dd/dnc. because it regens back to full during charm ( and you lose 500+ HP each charm).

[detlef]

You just need to stick a dot on it right before you trigger BJ; it won't regen during BJ.

[Monchat]

yeah how do you do it as thf/dnc lol. not that it matters as the boss is a waste of time for coins farming it drops very rarely wven with high TH.

[Arcon]

yeah how do you do it as thf/dnc lol. not that it matters as the boss is a waste of time for coins farming it drops very rarely wven with high TH.

Viper Bite, I've done it before. And Boss only takes 10min to kill, and has a reported drop rate of > 25%. Assuming 75 average, that means roughly 20 Alex per 10min, meaning 400k/10min, meaning possibly the best reward/time ratio achievable solo in the entire game.

I make 2M average per run in Salvage. I get > 70 Alex almost every time (not counting Boss), 2box THF+WHM. It's very hard to get that much in Dynamis at all, especially with current prices. Even the reported 300 coins (which sounds greatly exaggerated, as most people will barely clear 200) is not as good with current prices on Leviathan.

[MarkovChain]

I have done it monk/thf solo. Get a few temp (potion type) from chests. It DOES regen to full but only charms after the last % you triggered previously. Like after its first charm it will charm again at 50% etc. Not really a problem because at 99 they go down very quickly.

[MarkovChain]

I make 2M average per run in Salvage. I get > 70 Alex almost every time (not counting Boss), 2box THF+WHM. It's very hard to get that much in Dynamis at all, especially with current prices. Even the reported 300 coins (which sounds greatly exaggerated, as most people will barely clear 200) is not as good with current prices on
Leviathan.

Way to misinform. It's 25% droprate with 50 coins average which means 250k on average.

Try THF+WHM on higher level dynamis mobs them come back to me. Last I checked dynamis mobs have been given forgotten items which greatly boost the profit in anyzone. 70 is lucky, not average. Salvage boss is not 400k for 10 min because you require to clear the previous floor's chariot, and as such, the correct door in GGII-room to pop it, as well unlocking your gear slots previously. Best thing you can aim is 10 minutes unlocking, 10 min to warp to CC floor, 10 min to warp to boss, 10 min to kill the boss with a 25% droprate. So it's more like 40 min with 50 coins average 25% of the time so 50 coins every 160 minutes ... /faceplam.

[Byrth]

It's actually 75 Alex average from a linen (50-100), and I regularly get ~80s with singles + cottons as THF+RDM dualbox in SSR (I kill all the gears/singles and any ramparts that link). Including Linens, my average number of Alex per run is between 90 and 100.

Also, runs take me about 70-80 minutes now.

[detlef]

Because I suck I typically take closer to the maximum allotted time in SSR. Anyway, you can definitely stick a dot on LAC before it goes into BJ mode and it will not regen provided that the dot does not wear. I generally stack Poison 2 and Bio 2 on it right before it turns and charms the melee. It really is easier to just get charmed than to try and kite it.

[Arcon]

Way to misinform. It's 25% droprate with 50 coins average which means 250k on average.

Wrong, as was pointed out before. 50 is the minimum, equal distribution to 100.

Try THF+WHM on higher level dynamis mobs them come back to me. Last I checked dynamis mobs have been given forgotten items which greatly boost the profit in anyzone.

How many forgotten items do you get? One of them equals about 2~3 coins (on Leviathan, 15~20k). That is not a great boost.

70 is lucky, not average.

No, 93 is lucky, which was my highest. 61 is unlucky, which was my lowest. Average from pouches is ~12, so you'd get 48 on average just from that. And the lowest I ever get pre-pouches was 23 (highest 41), so that alone will get you to 70.

Salvage boss is not 400k for 10 min because you require to clear the previous floor's chariot, and as such, the correct door in GGII-room to pop it, as well unlocking your gear slots previously.

Way to misinterpret. I never claimed to do Salvage just for boss. Your friend stated that the Boss isn't worth doing ("not that it matters as the boss is a waste of time for coins farming [..]"). All I said was that while you're in Salvage already, the boss is easily a good choice to do. When you're in Salvage and you've cleared everything and you're debating whether to kill boss or leave because it's a waste of time, you're passing up a 25% chance at at 1.5M gil.

/faceplam.

[MarkovChain]

50-100 on boss : 18 coins average.
4 NMs can drop their pouch, not 100% of the time : 10 coins average per pouch, 75% droparate on NM : 30 coins average.

That's 48 coins which you have to complete with gear killing at which point you are better off exiting and going to dynamis or limbus, because clearing every single gear is not only boring but also very random, not to mention lower fllor doors/gear drop less than CC floor ones.

Also the RDM NM itself requires an insane amount of time to pop with only a chance at dropping. So this one must be skipped to optimize your runs.

I calculated once that salvage will be worth doing when dynamis currently will go for 3k each and alex will stay at 20k.

Me and mdk, together with mules (mnk,thf,whm,brd) were doing 550 coins average in qufim plus 50 forgotten items. Sure prices have dropped a lot but it's still miles better than salvage.

And if you ever want alex for a mythic, the most clever way to do it is to leach cruor off plenty of mules and then sell chocobo blinker I hear, then buy alex..