I do closer to 3.5k pacts, to maybe occasional 4k pacts as summoner (when lucky) to ash and trash, and aside from super-high tier VWNM, closer to 2.4k rages. Which sure, lots of DD can outdo that with or without emp weapons, but compared to beastmaster and their pet's Sic commands for the most part, avatar pacts tend to hit much higher. Which is what i was comparing.