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    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Avatar Behavior Issues and Requests

    Hey everyone!

    We’ve received a couple reports of issues and requests about avatar behavior and I would like to pass on some comments regarding this.
    • The recast timer is activated when an enemy dies right before a Blood Pact is executed
      We will look into whether we can make it so the recast timer does not activate similar to how it would when a target moves out of range after executing a Blood Pact.
       
    • Ramuh and Titan Blood Pact animations are not displayed
      When performing another action or regular attack just before finishing the Blood Pact animation it is possible that the animation is not properly displayed. This is difficult to address because the way animations are displayed can be different depending on the client and the animation may be interrupted at different timings.
       
    • Enhancing effects that were dispelled with Lunar Roar are not displayed
      We definitely understand that it would be beneficial to display this so that you could check whether you removed the effects you were aiming for or not, however, work-load wise this will be a bit difficult to address right away due to the need to create two separate log messages for each type of enhancing effect in each of our supported languages.
       
    • After summoning an avatar there is a short period of time where actions cannot be performed
      This isn’t just limited to avatars and can be seen with other pets as well, but the system was set so that actions cannot be performed for a period of time directly after summoning an avatar to prevent erroneous actions for taking place.
       
    • There are times when alliance members can be targeted for Healing Ruby
      As a result of our investigation, we have determined that this phenomenon will occur under certain circumstances and are currently working to resolve the issue. Out of all Blood Pacts and pet commands, this phenomenon only occurs with Healing Ruby.

    There are a lot of items which are difficult to address and require some confirming, but we will continue to look into the above and update you as we make progress.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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    How about the issue where your pet dying, or you releasing it in a situation where there are multiple monsters, where some of which who have yet to procure emnity on anyone, make a beeline directly for the Summoner?

    It's pretty easy to see the problem in action when fighting Jailer of Love when it summons a wave of three mobs. Release your pet while they are out and untouched, and they'll go directly for you even with you performing no action on them.


    There is also the quirk where using Assault with an Elemental Spirit resets its recast timer, which are long enough as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    How about the issue where your pet dying, or you releasing it in a situation where there are multiple monsters, where some of which who have yet to procure emnity on anyone, make a beeline directly for the Summoner?

    It's pretty easy to see the problem in action when fighting Jailer of Love when it summons a wave of three mobs. Release your pet while they are out and untouched, and they'll go directly for you even with you performing no action on them.


    There is also the quirk where using Assault with an Elemental Spirit resets its recast timer, which are long enough as is.
    This... why would the dev team not address this... This is the biggest issue for SMN right now, along with any other pet job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    How about the issue where your pet dying, or you releasing it in a situation where there are multiple monsters, where some of which who have yet to procure emnity on anyone, make a beeline directly for the Summoner?

    It's pretty easy to see the problem in action when fighting Jailer of Love when it summons a wave of three mobs. Release your pet while they are out and untouched, and they'll go directly for you even with you performing no action on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    How about the issue where your pet dying, or you releasing it in a situation where there are multiple monsters, where some of which who have yet to procure emnity on anyone, make a beeline directly for the Summoner?

    It's pretty easy to see the problem in action when fighting Jailer of Love when it summons a wave of three mobs. Release your pet while they are out and untouched, and they'll go directly for you even with you performing no action on them.


    There is also the quirk where using Assault with an Elemental Spirit resets its recast timer, which are long enough as is.
    way to fix this would be to give summoner 2 new job abilities (since other jobs were given extra job abilities like solace/misery) which should be...

    Avatar Idle : Duration 2 hours, Recast 1 minute, Avatar wont attack enemies with hate on the summoner.
    Avatar Protector : Duration 2 hours, Recast 1 minute, Avatar will attack enemies with hate on the summoner.

    easy fix
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    This may be a little off topic, but I think they avatar should have a "Provoke" ability and/or a "Cover" ability for the summoner.
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    In regards to the July 23rd version update, SMN was left behind for the protect effect band-wagon. They missed out on increasing Carbuncle's Shining Ruby defense effect, and Titan's Favor. Oversight? Maybe. But I'm glad I decided to put SMN down and play a new job, being the red headed step child of classes was getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimecion View Post
    In regards to the July 23rd version update, SMN was left behind for the protect effect band-wagon. They missed out on increasing Carbuncle's Shining Ruby defense effect, and Titan's Favor. Oversight? Maybe. But I'm glad I decided to put SMN down and play a new job, being the red headed step child of classes was getting old.
    RDM said Hi. I at least can break out SMN when I go WoE but RDM has been gathering major dust for me. Last time I used it was for VW way back when I needed RDM to cover the tier 2 proc magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimecion View Post
    In regards to the July 23rd version update, SMN was left behind for the protect effect band-wagon. They missed out on increasing Carbuncle's Shining Ruby defense effect, and Titan's Favor. Oversight? Maybe. But I'm glad I decided to put SMN down and play a new job, being the red headed step child of classes was getting old.
    As far as I'm aware, shining ruby doesn't have a cap. Therefore, where pro V went from 60 to ~200 def, the bonus provided by shining ruby went from AN EXTRA 6 def to AN EXTRA 20 def (not much but still an increase. A turtled up PLD can get over 200 def from shining ruby). Titan's favor has always sucked and I doubt it is ever going to be worth it.
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    After summoning an avatar there is a short period of time where actions cannot be performed
    Heh, good times. Gotta love a mage sleeping an entire group of mobs, then having a Summoner call an avatar and watch it go off and poke an enemy awake despite repeated Retreat commands.

    Hence why my LS repeatedly tell me to PUT AWAY THE ******* AVATAR anytime we do stuff that requires sleep.
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