Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

Originally Posted by Siiri

I freely admit I dislike scholar, maybe even downright hate it. That really isn't the issue though. The issue is bad game design disguised by an overpowered 2 hour to the point that 2 of the 6 members have to be scholar.

That statement.... You mad bro? Jealous? What? you leveled a dumb dumb job? Scholar 2 hours is by far one of the best 2 hours in the game, finally the developer did something right and created a 2 hours that is worth its title. Before you twisted your panty once again, and go crying, let me remind you the upcoming revision to existing 2 hours and some new meritable ones that is in the works. I bet you soon Neo Nyzul will require some of these potent new two hours to be used and it will make Embrava looks like a yesterday news. Then you can go back here hating several new jobs and complaint how unfair blah blah blah. Embrava is fine the way it is, not over powered, it's the right ability for scholar since to master that job you must be able to use things strategically, something you obviously have no experience.

Granted I agree with you that no events should be designed with certain jobs in mind to be able to complete it. But the players found out how to go around this so called "balance", it's too bad they also need cheat programs, and the fact that you need job xyz. What Embrava did is to let all the DDs go all out, and the fact that Embrava is extremely efficient with haste, regen, and regain. Same thing can be said for Corsair + Summoner combo but the fact that you do not get the same amount of duration and potency. But let's not derail the main problem here, this event is 100% luck based, if they added time extension so you can get up to 45-60 minutes, then all problems here will be removed and all jobs combination can work. The only factor would be getting lucky with the drops or the fact that you need to kill floor boss mob 15 times.

Originally Posted by Luvbunny

That statement.... You mad bro? Jealous? What? you leveled a dumb dumb job? Scholar 2 hours is by far one of the best 2 hours in the game, finally the developer did something right and created a 2 hours that is worth its title. Before you twisted your panty once again, and go crying, let me remind you the upcoming revision to existing 2 hours and some new meritable ones that is in the works.

Nope, not mad or jealous. I have many jobs at 99, same as most people in this thread. I have adapted my jobs and play style over the last 7 years, taking part in every event in game at one time or another. I will state again, my issue with scholar has nothing to do with my points in this thread. I think the existence of over powered 2 hour abilities is bad game design, whether they are SAM only Nyzul shouts at 75, Kclub drk AV fights (which was nerfed), Perfect Defense AV/Pandemonium Warden fights, or embrava fueled Nyzul 2.0, Legion and Provenance. I am not picking on scholar, I am calling out the game design. Sorry you feel the need to insult me to make your argument.

Why people advocate for the nerfing of jobs or abilities instead of adjustments to events is beyond me.

Again, if you want to place blame, blame the developers for creating unbalanced contents. As for jobs xyz getting preferred treatment, that is just how the game works. After awhile the players will find out which jobs are the most efficient at clearing particular tasks. As for 2 hours being overpowered, perhaps you forgot other super powered 2 hours? Familiar is also extremely powerful, it lasts 30 minutes and longer when you have jug pets. There are many other 2 hours that is just as good as Embrava, albeit for different situations, and at this point not for Neo Nyzul. Save your hatred for something else. I don't hate any jobs in FFXI, each one is useful for certain situations, not one job is a solution for everything, well except White Mage, one of the best mage jobs in this game, PERFECT 10 - in case you are looking for another nerf this job case...

Originally Posted by Luvbunny

Again, if you want to place blame, blame the developers for creating unbalanced contents. As for jobs xyz getting preferred treatment, that is just how the game works. After awhile the players will find out which jobs are the most efficient at clearing particular tasks. As for 2 hours being overpowered, perhaps you forgot other super powered 2 hours? Familiar is also extremely powerful, it lasts 30 minutes and longer when you have jug pets. There are many other 2 hours that is just as good as Embrava, albeit for different situations, and at this point not for Neo Nyzul. Save your hatred for something else. I don't hate any jobs in FFXI, each one is useful for certain situations, not one job is a solution for everything, well except White Mage, one of the best mage jobs in this game, PERFECT 10 - in case you are looking for another nerf this job case...

You are the one who sounds angry. White Mage's weakness is the same as it has always been, in that it is not desired for sustained low man events in which the action is continuous. No one takes a white mage to Nyzul 2.0. so there is an event it is not perfect for. Likewise white mage will probably be little used in Limbus 2.0 except for the boss fight, and Salvage 2.0. It was rarely used in those events at 75 in the original versions. I don't have a problem with this, I have many other jobs to use when white mage isn't needed. I also don't have a problem with scholar being a top pick for Nyzul. Seems a bit odd for Nyzul to require 2 scholars using their 2 hours though. I think I have said this all before though.

Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Hypocrite. Admit you fixed lamp orders by dat modding like everyone else.






What is formless strike.





Nope it's cheat tools that are undectable. You use them just like anyone else reaching the top floor.





Man what a lot of work ! dude haste on warp up embrava when it wears off, console users totally can't do eeet.






It's funny because I fail to see what temps make the SCH more efficient.



Kay mister useless, you explained us that all your previous speech about strategy is useless, the only way to achieve FL100 is getting ~10+ 8 floors jumps, all of which belong to easy floors (aka no those requiring ofg1337 dps). Fail.

Short version:I can't do that! Your lying! You cheat, cheater!

Or at least, what it looked like to me... I think its possible, and talking to your partners helps obviously, tell them where your going and split up better, also means you can get people info faster, saves time typing... Many reasons.
As for what can temps do for SCH? Well if your getting mobs that are resistant to melee, they are gonna be weak to magic, meaning the SCHs can nuke them, meaning MP items and things to make your nukes stronger, thus improving speed & performance. How hard are things to understand?