Dispel II

[saevel]

I don't get why most of our enhancing spells are single target. To what benefit are self target spells if we're not a solo class. If we're in an alliance, surely we'll be getting bar-spells from the WHM. Just turn barspells into single cast

RDM was never designed as a "buffing" job like BRD / WHM / COR. SE never intended it to be, nor ever plans on it becoming that. RDM was forced into that position due to all it's other abilities being lack luster and those buffs it does cast having zero potency boosting effect (Refresh / Haste). We could go into this huge dialogue on the history of RDM since 2003, but I think we've already been there and had that discussion. We asked SE point blank and their reply was "no". Then dumb a$$'s got the idea that they might trick SE into turning RDM into a buff b!tch by getting buffs to be cast-able on party / alliance members. SE's didn't even bother giving them a reply.

Long story short, RDM will never ever EVER be a group buffing job, ever. You can cry, stamp your feet, moan and generally get a bad attitude, it won't help. If you want to buff people that badly then go talk to your moogle and change to WHM / BRD or even COR (if you like to shoot things).

[Daniel_Hatcher]

RDM was never designed as a "buffing" job like BRD / WHM / COR. SE never intended it to be, nor ever plans on it becoming that. RDM was forced into that position due to all it's other abilities being lack luster and those buffs it does cast having zero potency boosting effect (Refresh / Haste). We could go into this huge dialogue on the history of RDM since 2003, but I think we've already been there and had that discussion. We asked SE point blank and their reply was "no". Then dumb a$$'s got the idea that they might trick SE into turning RDM into a buff b!tch by getting buffs to be cast-able on party / alliance members. SE's didn't even bother giving them a reply.

Long story short, RDM will never ever EVER be a group buffing job, ever. You can cry, stamp your feet, moan and generally get a bad attitude, it won't help. If you want to buff people that badly then go talk to your moogle and change to WHM / BRD or even COR (if you like to shoot things).

And as such needlessly pointless spells like the bar spells are placed twice in the list occupying more space than necessary restricting any potential new spells.

[saevel]

And as such needlessly pointless spells like the bar spells are placed twice in the list occupying more space than necessary restricting any potential new spells.

I agree that SE should remove the single target barspells and just let RDM have the aoe versions, makes no sense otherwise.

I was never against giving RDM's the capability to buff people, what I am against is forcing a RDM to cast the same spell over and over and over again. The evil xp / merit party style cycles drove most RDM's away from the job and left only the people using it to get gear for a different job. The moment the game got away from merit / xp parties the popularity of RDM died out. That's how sad of a state the job was in prior to abyssea (not to say it got better).