Dispel II

[saevel]

And as such needlessly pointless spells like the bar spells are placed twice in the list occupying more space than necessary restricting any potential new spells.

I agree that SE should remove the single target barspells and just let RDM have the aoe versions, makes no sense otherwise.

I was never against giving RDM's the capability to buff people, what I am against is forcing a RDM to cast the same spell over and over and over again. The evil xp / merit party style cycles drove most RDM's away from the job and left only the people using it to get gear for a different job. The moment the game got away from merit / xp parties the popularity of RDM died out. That's how sad of a state the job was in prior to abyssea (not to say it got better).

[Lilia]

pointless spells like the bar spells???

I like my solo barspells <3
I dont want weak barspellga from smn/whm or brd/whm, or a wrong barspell from whm.
Is nice to see the ga dont replace rdm barspell.

[Demon6324236]

pointless spells like the bar spells???

I like my solo barspells <3
I dont want weak barspellga from smn/whm or brd/whm, or a wrong barspell from whm.
Is nice to see the ga dont replace rdm barspell.

In a way, I agree, it would suck to have another person nearby cast a shitty spell and wipe your awesome one away, however if this is truly a problem with adding more spells, then do it, I would rather 6 new spells that might be worth having instead of these honestly.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

pointless spells like the bar spells???

I like my solo barspells <3
I dont want weak barspellga from smn/whm or brd/whm, or a wrong barspell from whm.
Is nice to see the ga dont replace rdm barspell.

Like I said, I'm not asking for them to be removed, I'm asking for there to only be the ga line that's given to WHM and RDM, therefore freeing up 6 spaces while having minimum impact.

[Llana_Virren]

freeing up 6 spaces while having minimum impact.

When's the last time you saw a BLM use Shock, Rasp, Choke, Drown, Burn, or Frost?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

When's the last time you saw a BLM use Shock, Rasp, Choke, Drown, Burn, or Frost?

They're still unique spells, 6 x 2 of the same spell minus the AoE ability is a waste.

[Demon6324236]

When's the last time you saw a BLM use Shock, Rasp, Choke, Drown, Burn, or Frost?

Last time I did VW, ok really I see your point but honest answer. Onto Daniel's responce...

They're still unique spells, 6 x 2 of the same spell minus the AoE ability is a waste.

This makes sense, the only thing is that they would need to make a way to keep the Barra-Spells of other people from effecting you, that or if its cast with less enhancing magic then you have it doesn't overwrite yours.

[tyrantsyn]

When's the last time you saw a BLM use Shock, Rasp, Choke, Drown, Burn, or Frost?

I'm not picking on you, just wanted to say when was the last time you saw any thread stay on topic? I thought this was about improving Dispel not taking stuff out of the game?

[Demon6324236]

I'm not picking on you, just wanted to say when was the last time you saw any thread stay on topic? I thought this was about improving Dispel not taking stuff out of the game?

Well it was about Dispel II, then we got paid a visit from a rep and got asked about new spells, in the idea of adding new spells it has been said our list is almost full & we would be unable to get more. Asking to condense the current list to make more room for new spells seems to be on topic still, however this threads name has been misleading since the talk of new spells was introduced to it.

[tyrantsyn]

Yea, just sucks when you come into a thread and the conversation from the OP has nothing to do with whats being discuss on the last page. Especially after a Dev's come in and have ask for specific input on said topic. I don't believe their ever going to delete spell's just to add more. In less balance is called into question.