Dispel II

[Demon6324236]

Problem with them is all their melee hits count as TP's as well, so it may just end up said families it's worthless on, it working on the majority is still an increase to how or enfeebling is currently.

Agreed, I wasn't thinking about them all counting as TPs, would be nice if there was a way around it, if not oh well, sadly its also another reason why paralyze has been massively reduced in usefulness even when it does land, spells are the only truly effected thing.

[Llana_Virren]

This might need a lil adjusting now that I think of it, Harpys, Ironclads, and Hahava's race(don't feel like looking it up, to tired) attack with normal attacks as AoEs from what I know, so it would need to be TPs & Magic only otherwise you would blow this on their 1st melee attack and it would be wasted ><;

Well, SE wouldn't give it to us if it wasn't at least a "little" gimpy. :P

[Neisan_Quetz]

If SE won't implement a workable amnesia/plague spell (none of the others are very effective on NMs) or variant of give Rdm Stun natively and call it a day.

[hideka]

when dispell II removes an effect, that effect can not be re applied for 60-120 seconds. give it a 30 second recast.

[Ophannus]

Or they could give us the spells that have been in the .dats for 8 years:

Wall
Reflect
Might
Faith
Toad
Confuse
Berserk
Curse

Instead of not adding spells to RDM because "the spell list is almost full", instead add existing spells that are unused. Even better: delete crappy spells from the spell .dat list i.e "Bar spell II's, Invisra/Sneakra/Deodorizga/Invisible II/Sneak II/Deodorize II and those Ignis/Aqua/Terra spells.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Or they could give us the spells that have been in the .dats for 8 years:

Wall
Reflect
Might
Faith
Toad
Confuse
Berserk
Curse

Instead of not adding spells to RDM because "the spell list is almost full", instead add existing spells that are unused. Even better: delete crappy spells from the spell .dat list i.e "Bar spell II's, Invisra/Sneakra/Deodorizga/Invisible II/Sneak II/Deodorize II and those Ignis/Aqua/Terra spells.

The thing is, if the list is full it's simple for them to fix. Kill their cutting off their nose to spite their face and just give RDM the AoE version of spells like the barspells, that grants 6 more spaces in itself for brand new spells.

It's not as if it's OP or the single target spells are more powerful than the AoE versions like they claimed to originally aim for.

[Ophannus]

I don't get why most of our enhancing spells are single target. To what benefit are self target spells if we're not a solo class. If we're in an alliance, surely we'll be getting bar-spells from the WHM. Just turn barspells into single cast

[Merton9999]

Or they could give us the spells that have been in the .dats for 8 years:

Wall
Reflect
Might
Faith
Toad
Confuse
Berserk
Curse

Instead of not adding spells to RDM because "the spell list is almost full", instead add existing spells that are unused. Even better: delete crappy spells from the spell .dat list i.e "Bar spell II's, Invisra/Sneakra/Deodorizga/Invisible II/Sneak II/Deodorize II and those Ignis/Aqua/Terra spells.

I've wanted these for RDM for years, ever since I saw them in the .dats. There was a rep post about adding Reflect not too long ago. That was encouraging. About as encouraging as five people on each server having Meteor three years after it was announced...

Anyway, it's impossible for me to buy the overpowered argument on these. There are so many statistics that can be tweaked to make spells and abilities useful without being overpowered. Just bring back the guy who made Afflatus and Composure.

I'm actually scared they will introduce these spells though. They'll be merit category 3 and you'll be able to make exactly two of them useful.

[saevel]

I don't get why most of our enhancing spells are single target. To what benefit are self target spells if we're not a solo class. If we're in an alliance, surely we'll be getting bar-spells from the WHM. Just turn barspells into single cast

RDM was never designed as a "buffing" job like BRD / WHM / COR. SE never intended it to be, nor ever plans on it becoming that. RDM was forced into that position due to all it's other abilities being lack luster and those buffs it does cast having zero potency boosting effect (Refresh / Haste). We could go into this huge dialogue on the history of RDM since 2003, but I think we've already been there and had that discussion. We asked SE point blank and their reply was "no". Then dumb a$$'s got the idea that they might trick SE into turning RDM into a buff b!tch by getting buffs to be cast-able on party / alliance members. SE's didn't even bother giving them a reply.

Long story short, RDM will never ever EVER be a group buffing job, ever. You can cry, stamp your feet, moan and generally get a bad attitude, it won't help. If you want to buff people that badly then go talk to your moogle and change to WHM / BRD or even COR (if you like to shoot things).

[Daniel_Hatcher]

RDM was never designed as a "buffing" job like BRD / WHM / COR. SE never intended it to be, nor ever plans on it becoming that. RDM was forced into that position due to all it's other abilities being lack luster and those buffs it does cast having zero potency boosting effect (Refresh / Haste). We could go into this huge dialogue on the history of RDM since 2003, but I think we've already been there and had that discussion. We asked SE point blank and their reply was "no". Then dumb a$$'s got the idea that they might trick SE into turning RDM into a buff b!tch by getting buffs to be cast-able on party / alliance members. SE's didn't even bother giving them a reply.

Long story short, RDM will never ever EVER be a group buffing job, ever. You can cry, stamp your feet, moan and generally get a bad attitude, it won't help. If you want to buff people that badly then go talk to your moogle and change to WHM / BRD or even COR (if you like to shoot things).

And as such needlessly pointless spells like the bar spells are placed twice in the list occupying more space than necessary restricting any potential new spells.