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    Player Calamity's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Cause it's a nice spell to have, it's hardly game breaking, its a classic drk spell and I doubt it would take all of 5 mins to recode it to dark magic and add drk to the list of users.
    So I wasn't really gonna reply to this thread because I don't care one way or another whether we get escape... but this one line caught my eye. Classic drk spell? At what point in the entire ff series did drk ever, and I mean ever get escape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    its a classic drk spell
    Darkness, Sanguine Blade, Blood Weapon, Drain...those are classic Dark Knight spells...

    If you've ever played old-school FF, you'll take notice to the one job archetype that gets Escape.

    (They already have it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerich View Post
    Darkness, Sanguine Blade, Blood Weapon, Drain...those are classic Dark Knight spells...

    If you've ever played old-school FF, you'll take notice to the one job archetype that gets Escape.

    (They already have it)
    Truth be told, if we're talking about a traditional FF dark knight, traditional dark knights didn't have magic, they just had various abilities and special weapons. Really, the only example I can think of of a dark knight using spells outside of 11 is X-2, and by the gods I don't think that game should set an example for anything. Ever.
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    If it had escape it wouldn't have to. could /whm or dnc to save on oils and powders

    There are other reasons to go back to the book, refresh buffs change page, reparation.
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    I forgot to reply to someone earlier about another FF game getting Escape. I didn't play it, but they may have. Let's look at Final Fantasy IX. We have Princess Garnet who specializes in Summoning then White Magic, then Vivi who specializes in Black Magic, and then Eiko who specializes in White Magic then Summoning.

    My point is: Ever FF game is different. This one doesn't have to -give- DRK escape. Also I never knew so many DRK's did pages solo. Every reason Cabalabob posted was in essence: I'm a lazy DRK.

    SE has made this game easy enough, let's not continue down this path.
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    You guys fail to see the point of escape. Yes, we all understand its a old, out of date, and hardly ever used spell. But don't look at it from this standpoint. If we receive future expansions, or whatever content it may be, escape may once again be a viable option for content. Also, you sound so ignorant to assume every level 99 has done sea and sky. This spell is irrelevant to you because you have done these expansions, and had to time to explore. For new players seeking the enjoyment of a new adventure, escape can be a time saver when needing to go back. Yes, every job has more pressing matters than to worry about getting low tier spells, but your assuming that the life of this game is everyone who has played sense release. So stop thinking that because you have no need for this spell, that everyone won't. That's an ignorant assumption that should have no influence on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeroe View Post
    You guys fail to see the point of escape. Yes, we all understand its a old, out of date, and hardly ever used spell. But don't look at it from this standpoint. If we receive future expansions, or whatever content it may be, escape may once again be a viable option for content. Also, you sound so ignorant to assume every level 99 has done sea and sky. This spell is irrelevant to you because you have done these expansions, and had to time to explore. For new players seeking the enjoyment of a new adventure, escape can be a time saver when needing to go back. Yes, every job has more pressing matters than to worry about getting low tier spells, but your assuming that the life of this game is everyone who has played sense release. So stop thinking that because you have no need for this spell, that everyone won't. That's an ignorant assumption that should have no influence on this thread.
    I still would LOVE! for you to give me a valid explanation besides
    A) Lazy
    B) Someone shut the doors in sky on me
    C) Lazy
    D) FOV (You can set the pages to repeat)
    E) Lazy
    F) It would increase job utility (Seriously? lol I think you said something about MAB when you said that also)
    G) Lazy
    H) I don't feel like buying sneak and invisible potions
    I) Lazy
    J) New Players (Again, seriously? I never had my hand held through sky or sea)
    K) Lazy

    When you come back with a real reason why, and when SCH gets retrace, then we will talk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyerieri View Post
    I still would LOVE! for you to give me a valid explanation besides
    A) Lazy
    B) Someone shut the doors in sky on me
    C) Lazy
    D) FOV (You can set the pages to repeat)
    E) Lazy
    F) It would increase job utility (Seriously? lol I think you said something about MAB when you said that also)
    G) Lazy
    H) I don't feel like buying sneak and invisible potions
    I) Lazy
    J) New Players (Again, seriously? I never had my hand held through sky or sea)

    When you come back with a real reason why, and when SCH gets retrace, then we will talk
    1.) How does this promote being lazy? I don't understand why your assuming a drk has to sub blm just to use this spell. How overly inefficient and poor choice of sub could lead to the downfall of a solo fight. You cannot bring warp scrolls into this debate, seeing as there entirely different warps.

    2.) This would increase utility! That's what you fail to grasp! as for MAB, you better bet a drk should get that, anyone would agree. That's all a argument on its own though. Having escape and/or warp would highly increase usability solo or in groups.

    3.) Sneak and Invisible have absolutely NO impact on this topic! Your trying to grasp ideas for your own sake that BLM has to be the only job with escape. What, so sneak/invis are off, and your stuck behind the doors in sky. How in the world is having sneak/invs going to help there? Again, stay relevant as to why this spell shouldn't be given, seeing as how you love it so much to create ideas that seem to come from no logic other than you yourself deem it useless.

    4.) Well to be honest, so glad no one held your hand through sky or sea. SO glad those missions that require two people you completed by yourself! You cannot argue that sense you have had escape, you have never once used it. Even the chance of you using it once would deem it a great utility spell.

    5.) Look at scarlet delirium, and how underused that ability is. Its utter crap, and its situational use it SO RARE that it is hardly ever deemed super effective in combat. But yet...we have it? Why? Because my good troll friend, it is situational, same as escape!

    Hopefully you grasp the idea a bit more now why escape would be a handy utility spell, and not just say lazy! lazy! LAZY! as this makes your argument invalid. Good day sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeroe View Post
    You For new players seeking the enjoyment of a new adventure, escape can be a time saver when needing to go back.

    ...

    So stop thinking that because you have no need for this spell, that everyone won't.
    So, let those new players enjoy the same events we enjoyed those many years ago: DRK didn't have escape then, and we got through it all just fine. Point?

    Also, don't assume that everyone else will use escape, just because you want it.

    How about we just add a Scroll of Instant-Escape?
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    Where is the dislike button seriously? It's not even worth wasting a breath on you. I know you assume that I am on BLM 100% of the time, but I do have Melee jobs leveled. I can't remember the last time saying "Gosh, If i just had escape it would make my life so much easier." Just admit your lazy and we'll all have a nice day.

    (To your #4: When could we escape to missions? I may have missed that memo i guess)

    To SE: Don't ever consider this. If you do, make it beyond last place.

    I'll be waiting for your next post asking for SE to give DRK's Tier4 magic along with the full MAB of a blm

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by Nyerieri; 05-29-2012 at 01:46 PM.

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