What DRG still needs.

[Silkavenger]

Right. Not really ideas about atk, but questions i suppose.

I'm pretty sure the OP used the 99OAT Chauve? This is a really powerfull weapon, and one of the strongest of the OAT series. But it's still got a base damage of 110. Assuming most other DDs participating in VW have at least 90 empyrean weapons (if not 95-99) or 95 relics (if not 99).

When comparing the 99OAT spear with even the 90ukon that's a difference of 21 base damage. That just seems like a big deal to me. 22 between 99OAT and 90Rhongomiant. 29 between 99OAT and 95ryunohige. This to me seems like a huge huge difference. Shouldn't it be the case that a weapon with lower damage puts out lower numbers?

Ukon90 benefits not only from having a crit hit WS, but also maintaining ODD and just generally being a beast of a weapon. Would wars be better off with a mythic Gaxe? I'm inclined to think not, or at least not universally. At the very least the margin is small enough that it's not worth going to the trouble of making a mythic, because the empyrean is so strong.

MNK are in the same boat as drg, relying on /sub for heavy damage boosting abilities. However, like war, they have a weapon that combines: ODD+high base damage+powerful WS.

DRGs don't have this option in our empyrean, but we do have it in our mythic. It may not be fair that our best best weapon is more difficult to obtain, but it is there. I saw a SS of a ryunohige putting up multiple 5000+ drakes on Pil. It seems to me that is the comparison that needs to be made when lining drg up against ragna drks and ukon wars or w/e in an endgame setting. I say this because I think SE (mistakenly) believes all relic/mythic/empyrean are intended to be equal in theory, even if they are not in practice.

tl;dr: seems like comparing OAT drg to empy/relic non-drg is like comparing OAT non-drg to mythic drg. Maybe not a good basis for comparison?