How can you guys stand to play this game anymore

[Shadowsong]

Was this really necessary im sorry if I sounded like a dbag with that guy telling me to go to life journal or whatever but isn't this the place where we share our experiences of FFXI.

I meant this as advice with no ill will behind it. You legitly seem like you are not having fun with the game, it may be time to just let it go. If the game's vision has changed from what you like, why stick around?

[Drakhon]

I keep asking myself that same question every day.

[Godofgods]

I guess the other side of the fence is blue after all.

People complain all the time about the 'new' leveling system. But they also seem to forget that toward the last year or two before lvl sync and aby, a large majority of ppl were getting sick of leveling. Their were certain ways to increase your yield, but it was still a long (and IMO boring) grind. A lot of ppl simply didn't level more then one or two jobs because they couldn't stand the grind. So the introduction of a new, 'easier' method was kind of inevitable.

If you want proof of that then remember, all the old camps that took six people and some skill.... They are still their. Its not as tho they have been removed from the game. And with everyone complaining all the time, it shouldn't be hard to find ppl to go make a pt with. - The truth however, is that no-one really wants to. When you got a new job to level, ill damn near guarantee your first thoughts are book/abyssea. Because no-one want to do the old month long grind.

I'm not saying the new system doesn't have its downsides. But don't sit here complaining how much better the old system is. Then log in and go to a FC party.

[RAIST]

well said. Think that's what gets overlooked in these debates....the game isn't forcing anyone to level differently and all, it's just that most everyone has accepted it as the new norm. Perhaps "embraced it" is a better way to phrase it.

[BurnNotice]

As someone that has been playing from day 1 of the NA release, I can share that this game make you feel indifferent at times.

The most I can recommend folks is to:

1) Take necessary breaks to regain interest (That usually helps for the majority of the population)

2) Consider helping people whom have not had the luxury of seeing and experiencing Vana'diel the way you have (I know vets who are now having fun with BCNMs that they haven't tried before).

Other than that, I can understand how this game can burn you out. I took several breaks and decided to do a relic and empy to keep my interest. Once I am done, I am sure that I will want another break, but I will find another reason to come back. We all do at some point. lol.

[DarkViper]

OK after playing for some time now i have to say that i'm actually starting to enjoy abyssea

[Arukia]

Also keep in mind that the faster lvling is to provide new/returning player a quicker way to get into end game content, which most of the population is doing. Fresh blood is rare in this stage of a game's life so it would rather be unfair to require the old style exping when most people are out for gearing.

Of course, having a low man exp static with friends to visit old zones and such is still quite fun. One of the reason I'm glad I didn't rush every job to cap.

[Mostfowl]

Leveling aside (albeit I do miss the old days sometimes too and sometimes I dont) there is a major tear in endgame these days. When you can solo/duo all the things you used to need an alliance for it takes the fun outta it. Being able to enter aby every day and run around soloing for drops makes it a choir moreso than the old method ever was. And your right gear really doesnt matter for most ppl these days, all they care about is if you have a relic or a timesyncee..er um I mean empy. Which I have neither of and if you have neither no endgame for you. I was working on a relic when dyna was destroyed and I cant bear to waste my time fighting the same nm 50-75+ times (not to mention the ki nm).

Endgame is easy mode these days and the way the try to refresh them just makes them suck even more. Hence why I call it the aby-bomb. Exp usually is the main argument behind why aby is bad but for me its that it destroyed every other part of the game, which is in total easy mode now. Even the new stuff post aby (VW for example) is beyond easy. And legion was just executed so horribly its not worth the effort.

My theory is the same as it was a year ago. They made ffxi easy-mode to move ppl to ffxiv. We will see with the release of 2.0 what happens, but my assumption is the sun will set over sandoria soon enough. And that will be a sad day.

[Mirabelle]

I don't understand these threads anymore. Sure a year ago they were valid, but currently there is a lot of things that require good gear in endgame.

Nyzul, Legion, higher tier VNM, ADL are all challenges that can't be "low-manned" in "easy mode" or brewed or whatever. Sure levelling is easy these days, but levelling was always easy, just time consuming.

Sad thing is, many people whined for these sort of "tough" events and given how few people are doing them (or in the case of Nyzul, cheating their way through them), maybe "easy mode" is what people are more interested in. I still see way more people in Aby and zerging VW than in any of the newer "hard" events.

[Camiie]

Sad thing is, many people whined for these sort of "tough" events and given how few people are doing them (or in the case of Nyzul, cheating their way through them), maybe "easy mode" is what people are more interested in. I still see way more people in Aby and zerging VW than in any of the newer "hard" events.

"Easy mode" IS more fun for me. I just haven't been able to get into any of the Post-Abyssea era events. I, for one, would have been happier if they hadn't gone back to their old-school event philosophies.