Gay Marriage in Vana'diel

[Asymptotic]

Dear Devs:

It's time to end the medieval gender role discriminiation you've enforced upon the beautiful world of Vana'diel. While it's pretty well-known that Vana'diel has a sizable and visible transgender population, there's not much mention of Vana'diel's gay community. All we know is that gays are not allowed to get married unless they manifest in heterosexual gender identity pairs.

That's not to say the issue of gays in Vana'diel hasn't been addressed at all ...



And yet, despite Mayakov's heroic deeds in the service of the Armed Forces of Altana, he never gets to wear that wedding dress he dreamed of! Do you know why! BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET MARRIED! It's preposterous. We modern gay adventurers get similarly shafted.

I talked to some prominent NPCs on the subject, and here's what they had to say:

King Destin of San d'Oria stated that while he has no personal ire for homosexuals, due to extrme pressure from the Papsque and the San d'Orian cathedral, he was forced to consider enacting a law which would forbid homosexuality in the Kingdom of San d'Oria, punishable by imprisonment in the Bostaunieaux Oubliette.

In response, the Star Sibyl of Windurst had the following to say:

In Windurst, we've always had the view that love is Magic - and we make no distinction of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression - in the beauty of that magic. When lovers are crossed in the stars, it's a wonderful thing and we will be forced to invoke trade sanctions against the Kingdom of San d'Oria and cease all military aid and diplomatic ties if they follow through with such an egregious trampling of Vana'dielian rights.

President Karst of the Republic of Bastok was far less eloquent and seemed somewhat confused, "I don't get it," he said, "I thought all Elvaan were gay."

We tried to contact the Archduke of Jeuno, but he could not be reached. An alarum from the Jeuno Voidwatch, however, suggests that the Duchy at least does not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation for the purposes of military service.

That aside!

The world is moving forward, Vana'diel should move forward too. Let us get gay married, SE. We didn't all play Mithra.

[Alhanelem]

Already beaten to death a million times, will never happen. SE is hardline against it.

[Asymptotic]

Already beaten to death a million times, will never happen. SE is hardline against it.

What are you, the "No" police?

[Camiie]

They should allow any two characters to marry regardless of gender (or lack thereof). Heck, aren't marriages pretty much player run events these days anyway? I haven't been involved in one since before they were changed so correct me if I'm wrong. Just let players run the wedding they want to run and have the rings and certificates simply list the names and ignore the gender of the characters. That way, while not endorsing it, they're not preventing it either. Not that I think their political concern, homophobia, or whatever is justified, but I gotta be realistic here.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/20...upport_service!

Only issue I have with the OP is the reference to Mayakov. While it's never made explicitly clear who he would marry if given the chance, he does state outright he'd do so wearing a tuxedo.

[Asymptotic]

Only issue I have with the OP is the reference to Mayakov. While it's never made explicitly clear who he would marry if given the chance, he does state outright he'd do so wearing a tuxedo.

He sort of ... is wishy washy on that. He kind of implies it would be the dress, then acts embarrassed, and says tuxedo :P

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

They should allow any two characters to marry regardless of gender (or lack thereof).

They already let Galka get married, just not to each other. Galka: putting the "T" in "LGBT" since 2002!

(And as for Mayakov, "effeminate" isn't the same thing as "homosexual." Foudeel, Wahboud, and Bashraf in Aht Urhgan, on the other hand...)

[SpankWustler]

Only marginally relevant to the topic, but some folks might enjoy the story.

Way back when, more than one person got the idea that my female best friend and I were boyfriend and boyfriend. Not people who knew each other, either, this was like the convergent evolution of a false idea. Of course, being the polite and refined young man that that I am, I'd respond by asking if they felt there was a top/bottom thing going and who the bottom was.

There was. Me. Always me. Glad they got that one part right, at least!

What are you, the "No" police?

I'm pretty sure he is. Literally. I'm pretty sure he even has a little badge with "NO!" emblazoned on it in every language.

[Alhanelem]

I'm pretty sure he is. Literally. I'm pretty sure he even has a little badge with "NO!" emblazoned on it in every language.

Hmm...

*buys one off the internet*

Look, I really don't care about it in either direction, I have no plans to marry anyone in a video game. I'd rather keep that to real life. I'm simply pointing out in this case that this topic has been beaten to death until it's been totally bled out and the remains are just a pile of dust about to blow away int he wind. SE has already answered it and posting again isn't going to change their minds on it. It's kind of sad, really, but beating the dead horse some more isn't going to do anything.

[Asymptotic]

Hmm...

*buys one off the internet*

Look, I really don't care about it in either direction, I have no plans to marry anyone in a video game. I'd rather keep that to real life. I'm simply pointing out in this case that this topic has been beaten to death until it's been totally bled out and the remains are just a pile of dust about to blow away int he wind. SE has already answered it and posting again isn't going to change their minds on it. It's kind of sad, really, but beating the dead horse some more isn't going to do anything.

It got me 290 emails.

[Camiie]

What are you, the "No" police?

He is.... Dr. No...