Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post
Juilan, I'm sorry but you're defending a person that I feel wants a handout
He was trying to make a point, similar to a point I tried to make almost a year ago. Lack of comprehension pervaded there, too.

At any rate...

and can't play an RPG effectivly to help themselves
How is one expected to "help themselves" when "helping themselves" requires the intervention of a high-level player?

You want a level ~20 to go skill alchemy. Getting the skill (and the ingredients for the meds in question) isn't realistic until level ~40 (not to mention the abominable timesink of skilling a craft in and of itself). Your only other suggestions boil down to "get assistance from someone else's high-level character" in one way or another.

Call that what you will, but "helping oneself" it is not. At best, it's "make yourself useful to someone else."