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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post

    In regards to the positioning of these monsters, we would like to take a look at it so that players can avoid being attacked by high-level monsters without warning. As a first step, we feel it would be good to address this earlier by making certain aggressive monsters non-aggressive.
    While you're on that train of thought, have the devs ever considered making Easy Prey monsters not aggro period?

    It's kinda silly running through the lvl75-era content and still having monsters aggro me at 99 that don't pose a threat, even though they're 25+ levels below me.
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    You know what would have fixed all these issues? adding new zones
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    They need to move the god damn GoV book in the god damn ruins BEHIND THE DOOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juilan View Post
    You know what would have fixed all these issues? adding new zones
    The goal was to allow someone who doesn't own any expansion packs to level all the way to 99.

    There has yet to be a new zone added that didn't require buying a new expansion pack.
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    they can add new zones without adding a new expansion pack, it isn't like they couldn't re-skin an existing area and place its entrance somewhere else
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    they can add new zones without adding a new expansion pack, it isn't like they couldn't re-skin an existing area and place its entrance somewhere else
    If that were technically possible, they would have done it by now. The reskinned zones for Dynamis and Abyssea both require RotZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    they can add new zones without adding a new expansion pack, it isn't like they couldn't re-skin an existing area and place its entrance somewhere else
    Yeah no. Pray tell, how would you explain Gustaberg getting an Eastern and Western area out of the blue? How would you explain Dunes getting an island that was never heard of all of the sudden? (After hundreds of in-game years people would have noticed SOMETHING) Also, how would you explain...any new zones suddenly appearing in the old world that wasn't heard of or known about suddenly popping up?

    This is why it comes with expansions, it makes sense lol. Even reskinned zones makes sense given the reasoning (usually expansion related)...even Abyssea made sense given being an alternate universe and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    While you're on that train of thought, have the devs ever considered making Easy Prey monsters not aggro period?

    It's kinda silly running through the lvl75-era content and still having monsters aggro me at 99 that don't pose a threat, even though they're 25+ levels below me.
    There's a certain "I hate this game I've never played before, only because others said they do" where even the lvl ~5ish mobs are aggressive to lvl 85s. /Truestory.jpg

    That said, I think it's BS that so many things will still aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinius View Post
    Best solution to the problem would be to just completely undo the addition of all the high-level mobs to the low-level areas entirely.

    Seriously, it's stupid. I have never, ever, seen anyone high-level killing (or even skilling up on) the new high level mobs, anywhere (with the possible exception of maybe one or two specific things in one or two zones). For the most part, they are nothing but a stupid annoyance that serves no purpose.
    I agree, and it's even less likely these high mobs in lowbie areas will ever be used by high level characters due to the far, far easier and faster XP rate Abyssea brings.

    SE had a reasonable idea when they made this change, sadly though as is often the case, they didn't think it through and subsequent changes makes this obsolete, while at the same time bringing on-going annoyance to lowbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    I agree, and it's even less likely these high mobs in lowbie areas will ever be used by high level characters due to the far, far easier and faster XP rate Abyssea brings.

    SE had a reasonable idea when they made this change, sadly though as is often the case, they didn't think it through and subsequent changes makes this obsolete, while at the same time bringing on-going annoyance to lowbies.
    They thought it through just fine, they just didn't understand people want XP spoonfed to them, not having to work for it.
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