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  1. #81
    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Customization. Which was SE's modus operandi when the merit system was introduced. Although some merit categories are so unbalanced that everyone picks the same merits, the intent was to allow characters to customize themselves beyond the copy-pasta gear that everyone wears at max level.
    Customization: "To make or alter to individual or personal specifications."
    Hmmm. My individual or personal specifications are not able to be met by the merit system as is where weapon skills are concerned.
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    Let us cap each meritable WS, with the bucketload of merit points we get doing VW, why let them go to waste?
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    Down with PS2 Emulation / Give us PS3 Native software

  3. #83
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Customization: "To make or alter to individual or personal specifications."
    Hmmm. My individual or personal specifications are not able to be met by the merit system as is where weapon skills are concerned.
    That seems to be solely due to the fact that your personal specifications appear to be "I want to have everything and everything, and no less." Having everything means zero customization, because there are no specifications to make or alter.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    ... and the benefit of being forced to choose not to get some of them that you really want is?
    I'm not being forced to choose not to get some of the ones I really want, because i have all the ones I really want. All of the rest would just be fluff for me. As i've already posted numerous times in this thread (though people still seem to want to pick on me in spite of it), the limit might be too low for the average person to pick out the ones they really want, and it should be increased. however, there should still be a limit. Otherwise, it ceases to be a facet of customization, as th ere is no tailoring to personal tastes involved since you could just get everything.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-12-2012 at 06:45 AM.

  4. #84
    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    That seems to be solely due to the fact that your personal specifications appear to be "I want to have everything and everything, and no less." Having everything means zero customization, because there are no specifications to make or alter.
    I don't want all the WS. I can't even use them all. I would like to be able to get at one for every job I have to 99 though. I have 6 jobs leveled to 99 and at least one weapon type leveled to 357+ for each. I want to go out and collect 100 merit points for each job. I don't want to leech those merit points either. What's so wrong with what I want?
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  5. #85
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    Three is entirely too limiting, especially as some of these are much better then their Emp counterparts. I can easily see five or six being a good amount, allows people more versatility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Because we have one and only one real category in the merit system that choice really matters doesn't make you a special snow flake Alhanelem, in a game where you can level EVERY job and the only true limit to your capabilities is how many situations you gear for and how good those sets are and your ability to use them at the right time/place, your arguement carries no weight, if they want to go ahead and revamp the entire merit system into ability trees, ones with actual and viable choices in all paths added then we have true character customization and uniqueness.

    Oh i got a good idea lets limit the max number of spells any job can learn so you have to pick and choose what kind of BLM or SCH you want to be sorry limit of two TV spells.

    I think you just enjoy arguing for arguments sake which is probably not a bad thing inspires people to add their ideas into a topic i suppose. To clarify my previous paragraph was not serious, that would be a terrible idea.
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    Last edited by Nala; 05-12-2012 at 10:20 AM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I don't want anymore weapon skills. Therefore other people shouldn't have more either.
    Yes, obviously everyone would get them even if they didnt want / need them, just because they can....

    By your logic, every billionaire d-bag would own every model of automobile, right down to the ford festiva. Not because they want or need one, but because they can. I have yet to see footage of George Clooney's famous Hyundai collection.

    People would still only have the weapon skills they want. Even if they could have them all, only people who want them all would get them all. Ever notice how few maat's caps you see? .... "But everyone can get all the jobs to 99... where's the customization? oh noes!"
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 05-12-2012 at 10:51 AM.

  8. #88
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    I don't want all the WS. I can't even use them all. I would like to be able to get at one for every job I have to 99 though.
    "I want to have everything and everything, and no less."
    sorry, I don't see much difference here. you are essentially saying there should be no limit, so you can have everything- only that it should be "unlocked" over time. No, it should not be that way, because then there is no decision to be made, no customization, and no distrinction between characters as far as who is more into what jobs. The time it takes to merit a WS is trivial, there's no reason not to unlock them all if there is no limit.

    I fully support a limit increase. I do not and will not support a limit removal. I've already endorsed the other thread proposing a specific limit increase, over this one just saying "GIMME."
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 05-12-2012 at 10:19 PM.

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    but a billionaire db can own every model car ever made, if they want/can afford it...

    they'll probably up the cap when content comes to another complete halt, to give us an artificial 'update'.
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    Alhanelem your entire argument against raising the cap involves straw manning stop it.

    As many of the above posters mentioned simply letting players cap out all the WSes won't change much. What does it matter to anyone else if someone decides to level a few more WSes or all of them? Key answer is nothing.
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    It doesn't take much to know when someone is special. After 5 minutes if the person is alive and well you have a keeper, if they are dead and obnoxious then toss em like two day old leftovers.

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