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    Player Dew's Avatar
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    Provenance Watcher~

    This bc is crappy like the rest of voidwatch. Already at 7 kills, all the drops I got to show for it is logs and rocks. Good job SE. Killing big dragon yields logs and rocks. Such amazing and awsome loot. Won't be surprised when it takes 30 kills to see a staff and staff rains from that bc for everyone else.

    Amazing job with content as always SE. Do tons of runs and you might see something that doesn't resemble a rock or log. Difficult battles are nice and all, but when you get logs and rocks for all of your hard work something is wrong.
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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    It's artificial difficulty. Instead of implementing a weekly cooldown timer they instead restrict the drop rates to ridiculously low levels. Accomplishes the same goal in the end which is to force you to keep playing and make acquiring those rewards take a long time. The gamblers fallacy will have you coming back over and over again.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    What did you expect them to do?

    Work on content that you can repeat as much as you want and give you the best drop rate ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    What did you expect them to do?

    Work on content that you can repeat as much as you want and give you the best drop rate ever.
    No, heaven forbid they attempt in the slightest to make the game enjoyable and rewarding, Instead of heaping piles of blood, anger and rage that it currently is.

    Thats just plain retarded. I see where you're coming from.

    However, sarcasm aside, Like Narnia, theres this magical land of middle ground that other games regularly find, and SE dances around repeatedly. I think the only upside to the latest battlefields is the NMs themselves have a drop pool on top of their Box-Drop Pool.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    No, heaven forbid they attempt in the slightest to make the game enjoyable and rewarding, Instead of heaping piles of blood, anger and rage that it currently is.

    Thats just plain retarded. I see where you're coming from.

    However, sarcasm aside, Like Narnia, theres this magical land of middle ground that other games regularly find, and SE dances around repeatedly. I think the only upside to the latest battlefields is the NMs themselves have a drop pool on top of their Box-Drop Pool.
    When it's one of the few things left in the game people do they will milk it as long as possible until they have multiple versions of endgame content. They are NOT going to allow people to easily complete, and finish Voidwatch when all it will lead to is people having nothing to do and leave.

    They could have used the way the game actually should have been and made it at lease somewhat difficult and therefore a better drop rate, but the majority of players will then moan about it being too hard.

    Abyssea wont happen ever again, SE are making damn sure of that now.
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    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    What did you expect them to do?

    Work on content that you can repeat as much as you want and give you the best drop rate ever.
    If you were getting the items you wanted you probably wouldn't be repeating it...
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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    I'm going to be blunt. I love SE and FFXI but...let's take a retrospective....

    Step 1 - Complete Voidwatch in the 3 Nations from tier 1 - 4...
    Step 2 - Complete Voidwatch in Jeuno Tier 1 - 6....
    Step 3 - Complete Zilart, CoP and ToAU Voidwatch if you want more Temps etc...
    Step 4 - Get a bunch of cutscenes inbetween, some lasting a rl hour if you don't time it correctly (whats the purpose of this?)
    Step 5 - After you've vendored all of your billions of logs, rocks, gems and kitrons, obtained your fancy armor 1/320 on every tier NM..sold millions of heavy metal plates and rift sand..you come to the land where vanadiel was created and will be destroyed, fighting more caturaes....and fighting the manifestation of the mothercrystal....

    I THINK WE'VE EARNED THE FU***** RIGHT NOT TO GET A GOD DAMN LOG OR FU**** RED ROCK ONTOP OF A LOW DROP RATE TO A UNIVERSAL POOL WHICH COULD ALSO COME FROM PERSONAL LOOT (it doesn't) FOR A REWARD IN THIS INSTANCE.

    Excuse my german. Seriously though, no. Get these logs and rocks out of this loot list.

    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    If you were getting the items you wanted you probably wouldn't be repeating it...
    No my dear, if I was getting the gear I wanted and the fight was fun you can be damn sure I would repeat it of my own free will. I'm repeating things now because I have to if I ever want to see something...but it's almost not worth the trouble of doing this.

    They should just let you use 1 pertifact as an entry to this fight..not like the rewards are any different and saves newer players or those who missed the VW train the trouble of trying to get clears for almost no reward >.> People are indeed GETTING LUCKY with this and going 1/1 or even 1/12..but the mere fact you defeat all creation and get a fuc*** log? REALLY?
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    Would you rather have a week lockout like they do on WoW, but guaranteed drops? You can only kill the boss once a week only to have the fight reset.

    Its a MMO they have to stall your gear progression somehow either lockouts or crap drop rates and in FFXI's case its crap drop rates.
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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    This is the thing though, it's not about the lock out or stalling progressing..it's the fact the rewards are not worth the time investiment or effort put into even accessing the damn thing. It's all based on luck with 100% guarantee of getting shit for drops that you can get from a random chest in Ronfaure as a level 1.

    This should not be the case. In any MMO. Ever. I should not be getting rewards in a raid designed for level 99s that I got at level 1.
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    Dark Knight ~ 90: Yes I actually use a Scythe.

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    I'd prefer weekly lockout tbh. The fight is hardly challenging or fun; why prolong the suffering?
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