Sanus Ensis?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Just so you know, I hate people who won't take a hint. BLU and PLD evade about the same, that's a fact. I don't care how you gear BLU, or if it maintains DD capability while PLD doesn't if it gears for Evasion, who the fuck cares. I told you I wasn't interested in this discussion at all, I'm not even reading any of these posts. The fact is, you have to gear for Evasion and sacrifice other things for BLU to cap Evasion. Yes, you don't need to sacrifice nearly as much as on PLD, but again, I have no interest whatsoever in this discussion, I don't care how much you have to sacrifice or what trade-offs you have to consider and how it relates to whatever PLD has to do for it. The fact that you can't use a regular setup to just go in like you would on PLD as well and magically evade more somehow means that they evade about the same. Everything you do after that is just you setting an arbitrary line for which trade-offs are good and which aren't.

And again, just to be very clear, I'm not defending saevel or trying to disprove anyone or partake in this discussion whatsoever, my intelligence was just offended by Neisan's ridiculous statement. I only checked this thread because it had a cool looking sword's name in the title. If I knew this was a BLU discussion, I wouldn't have even opened it at all because there is no job in this or any game that I could possibly care less about.

So you came here, into the BLU forum for no other reason than to prove your ignorance, completely ignore the discussion at hand and are somehow offended by people proving your pitiful lack of intelligence wrong. You sir are the definition of a troll.

[Tashan]

Just so you know, I hate people who won't take a hint. BLU and PLD evade about the same, that's a fact. I don't care how you gear BLU, or if it maintains DD capability while PLD doesn't if it gears for Evasion, who the fuck cares. I told you I wasn't interested in this discussion at all, I'm not even reading any of these posts. The fact is, you have to gear for Evasion and sacrifice other things for BLU to cap Evasion. Yes, you don't need to sacrifice nearly as much as on PLD, but again, I have no interest whatsoever in this discussion, I don't care how much you have to sacrifice or what trade-offs you have to consider and how it relates to whatever PLD has to do for it. The fact that you can't use a regular setup to just go in like you would on PLD as well and magically evade more somehow means that they evade about the same. Everything you do after that is just you setting an arbitrary line for which trade-offs are good and which aren't.

And again, just to be very clear, I'm not defending saevel or trying to disprove anyone or partake in this discussion whatsoever, my intelligence was just offended by Neisan's ridiculous statement. I only checked this thread because it had a cool looking sword's name in the title.

Except, it doesn't mean they evade the same. Just because base skill is the same doesn't mean that is how they perform. By your logic, a COR and a DNC would be the same when it came to using a dagger.

Or a PLD would have a better job healing than RDM because they have better healing magic skill.

If I knew this was a BLU discussion, I wouldn't have even opened it at all because there is no job in this or any game that I could possibly care less about.

At least you've admitted you don't know what you're saying.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Drk is totally a nuker going by that logic, B elemental skill!

[Tashan]

"E-Thug".

I completely see what's going on with you now Saevel and although you probobaly won't take it on board I'm going to explain it.

What's wrong with you is not your motivation. Certainly not, because at the very least you show yourself to be a man who likes to perform their own analysis.

What wrong with you is not your understanding. Although its flawed, you're allowed to be. It isn't the end of the world if you get things wrong.

What's wrong with you is that you do not represent your personal persepective. Rather than state what your personal opinion is, you present it as fact and that is why we constantly have these disagreements with you.

If you came into this, or any threads for that matter and simply said I think; I believe; I came to the conclusion.... because.... , then noone would have any ground because you are entitled to have an opinion.

Share your opinion; but don't always take it to be fact.

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I'll even start us off.

I think you're right in your view that the hybrid evasion set that I posted represents equipment which everyone won't currently have obtained.

It is my opinion that when speaking in facts, every possibility is considered, evaluated and nothing gets left ignored.

Would you like me to share with you my personal hybrid evasion set? I consider it to be more reflective of older gear because I don't play very often currently.

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Edit: I'd just like to note that while we're on this tangent, the original debate is on the value of Sanus Ensis.

The fact that switching from a Shikargar to this weapon alone loses you 1 point Weapon Damage Rating and 20 DPS should suggest it's got to make up for lost ground too.

I also think you lose 1 point in Base Damage (D) by doing so too, but I am not completely sure of my calculations.

[Return1]

I think everyone's missing the picture here.

No one cares if the PLD evades like shit because PLDs are awesome and eat DC damage for lunch with riot shields and swords that look like chainsaws. SWORDS THAT LOOK LIKE CHAINSAWS GUYS.

HOLY SHIT

Would you mess with a guy who had a chainsaw!? No you wouldn't, you'd let him take your mom to a pleasant redlobster seafood buffet, bang her, and not even complain when HE DIDN'T EVEN CALL BACK is what you'd do.

PLDs are so AWESOME they're DARK like DRKS. WITH A CAPITAL ESS!

Spakeing of DRKS when are they going to get my idea of casting Ultima and adding the damage done by it to every hit of my next WS? I feel this is a good idea, because I just said it. But make it only castable when you have a scythe because I hate how GSes look and bandwagon DRKs (NO CAPITOL FOR LOOSERS!)

MY WHITE MAGE DUAL WIELDS DAGGERS
Your argument is invalid.

[Tashan]

I think everyone's missing the picture here.

No one cares if the PLD evades like shit because PLDs are awesome and eat DC damage for lunch with riot shields and swords that look like chainsaws. SWORDS THAT LOOK LIKE CHAINSAWS GUYS.

HOLY SHIT

Would you mess with a guy who had a chainsaw!? No you wouldn't, you'd let him take your mom to a pleasant redlobster seafood buffet, bang her, and not even complain when HE DIDN'T EVEN CALL BACK is what you'd do.

PLDs are so AWESOME they're DARK like DRKS. WITH A CAPITAL ESS!

Spakeing of DRKS when are they going to get my idea of casting Ultima and adding the damage done by it to every hit of my next WS? I feel this is a good idea, because I just said it. But make it only castable when you have a scythe because I hate how GSes look and bandwagon DRKs (NO CAPITOL FOR LOOSERS!)

MY WHITE MAGE DUAL WIELDS DAGGERS
Your argument is invalid.

+Applauds+

XD

[Dart]

what a train wreck of a thread.

continue on.

[Savlyn]

You didn't do anything, lol. This is what happens in 90% of threads on this forum. People are crazy (myself included).

[larrymc]

This may be a little off topic now, but a few pages into the thread there was a discussion of evasion on BLU in dynamis, but I didnt see anyone mention the most important thing when it comes to increasing your evasion against DC and EP mobs in dynamis: use of Signet. On the few occasions where I have forgotten to use Signet and forgotten my signet staff in dynamis I have noticed a significant difference in evasion rate - perhaps this is the effect people are seeing.

[saevel]

This may be a little off topic now, but a few pages into the thread there was a discussion of evasion on BLU in dynamis, but I didnt see anyone mention the most important thing when it comes to increasing your evasion against DC and EP mobs in dynamis: use of Signet. On the few occasions where I have forgotten to use Signet and forgotten my signet staff in dynamis I have noticed a significant difference in evasion rate - perhaps this is the effect people are seeing.

Yep it does work inside and is something I had completely forgotten about when looking at effective evasion.