New Windows Version User Interface

[Babekeke]

However, there are some other adjustments in the new UI, such as multi-logs

Sounds just like voidwatch and WoE

[hiko]

Oh, I forgot to mention this. For those who are very comfortable with the old UI, it will be possible to choose between the new and old UIs.
※This is an either-or selection, so it would not be possible to use parts of the new UI.

easy fix so gamepad user can use new UI: change the underlined/bolded part !

[Dragoy]

Don't forget people, windower and the like (in fact other ui configurations) will now be legitimitised. So I find it quite likely that some awesome dude out there will find a way to get good features of this ui working with gamepad

Not sure if serious.

How do you figure that their intention is to do that? I'm rather sure that custom scripts or however it would be best described at this point does not mean it's OK to use third-party apps, or cheats, like that. ^^;

It will certainly be more controlled than you might imagine.


I could, of course, be wrong but I do doubt it.
Only time will tell I guess!

[Finuve]

why is it that whenever a post has a tanaka response, all I ever feel is rage...

I have never seen anyone before so completely miss the point

[JiltedValkyrie]

To clarify i play the game with a game pad and using my hd tv from the comfort of my recliner, the way i bypass the whole mouse issue is i use a wireless laser mouse, for some games mouse and keyboard type controls do have a place but those usually are FPS types any game meant to be played in 3rd person view i will always prefer my game pad for.

No, I use a wireless mouse also, but it is not very comfortable and isn't entirely practical for continuous gaming.

[Zhronne]

Integral aspects of the new UI, such as multi-windows, continual macro display and drag-&-drop are all UI features that require a pointing devise such as a mouse. These features are very difficult to control using direction keys and analog sticks on gamepads. As such, using the multi-window interface with a gamepad will actually be more difficult to maneuver than the current interface, which goes against our objective of improving usability.

Sorry but this post is completely based on the assumption that gamepad users are unable to use mouse and keyboard.
You don't really need to resize and customize the UI in real time while playing.
It's something that you can do once and for all, during idle time etc. The same type of situations where you edit the currently not-much-editable UI or customize your macros.

Also, aside from this, wether or not it's harder to customize the new UI with a gamepad (something we can all agree with) you should still give users the so-called "freedom of choice". Make so they are the ones to choose wether or not they want to use the new UI and a gampad.
SE's role as developers should be that to offer this *additional* possibility to users, it's up to them wether or not they want to make use of it.

I mean, really, from the previous post (the one before this one I'm quoting) I understood that players using a gamepad would be *UNABLE* to use the new UI with a gamepad, and that they would have been forced to use the new keyboard/mouse setup.

I don't see what's the big problem in giving players the *OPTION* to get the new possibilities offered by the new UI, that they will have to customize with a standard mouse, and then keep playing with gamepad plus keyboard like they've been doing all these years.
Either something got lost during translation from japanese to english, or Mr. Tanaka's post just make no sense at all.

[Lisotte]

Not sure if serious.

How do you figure that their intention is to do that? I'm rather sure that custom scripts or however it would be best described at this point does not mean it's OK to use third-party apps, or cheats, like that. ^^;

It will certainly be more controlled than you might imagine.


I could, of course, be wrong but I do doubt it.
Only time will tell I guess!

Considering they will allow for re-configuration of the UI by 3rd party, I see no reason why in 2012 they can't let you re-design the UI completely to some extent. There's plenty of decent MMOs out there where you can change a hella lot of stuff in the UI; why be "special" and be stuck in 2003?

Regardless, since I play controller I'm probably not going to be using the new UI.

[Daniel]

I'm not quite sure I understand this, the UI options won't be available to choose? You either get all or nothing? Can't I just chose to turn off certain UI options like permanent macros?

[Nala]

why is it that whenever a post has a tanaka response, all I ever feel is rage...

I have never seen anyone before so completely miss the point

yeah, even when he announces something that i actually care about or might be awesome it seems he has to add some balance to the idea. guy's freaking anikin, he will bring balance to the final fantasy. (we all know how that turned out for dear little anni)

No, I use a wireless mouse also, but it is not very comfortable and isn't entirely practical for continuous gaming.

I use a Logitech Performance MX with a Darkfield laser, unless i forget to charge it using my armrest as a mouse pad works perfectly with my keyboard in my lap for FPS's and the like, i have no responsiveness issues and i do not need much surface area to operate it either.

Point of the matter you should only need to use your mouse once to configure the UI/Chat logs/Widgets in the first place, and considering your preference you'd set it once and then sit back, what they need to do with this new UI is not add the ability to configure it with the game pad as much as allowing you to maintain the same functionality with a game pad with the new UI, you'd only be minus the quick access macro bar on the bottom.

[Vivivivi]

A program called JoyToKey can do that. Lets you map any mouse or keyboard input to game controller buttons and axes.

:O I must check into this. Thank you!