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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    Oh, and please don't forget IME for non-JP people!
    SE can't do this unless they pay MS for licensing fees for the NA and EU versions. The chances of that happening are slim to none given very few people with the NA version would use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SE can't do this unless they pay MS for licensing fees for the NA and EU versions. The chances of that happening are slim to none given very few people with the NA version would use it.
    Well, we might count ourselves damn lucky we don't play this game in black and white then. I'm sure technicolor been patented/licenced/trademarked somewhere in the past in the world.
    Such excuses would be acceptable if we were to discuss colours of Mercedes cars only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael View Post
    Well, we might count ourselves damn lucky we don't play this game in black and white then. I'm sure technicolor been patented/licenced/trademarked somewhere in the past in the world.
    Such excuses would be acceptable if we were to discuss colours of Mercedes cars only.
    IME is a MS program SE can't use it in their games for free if they did MS would sue them. Being a Software dev them selves no way SE would put it in without going through the proper channels.

    So they only paid to license the JP version to save themselves money. Nothing is going to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    IME is a MS program SE can't use it in their games for free if they did MS would sue them. Being a Software dev them selves no way SE would put it in without going through the proper channels.

    So they only paid to license the JP version to save themselves money. Nothing is going to change that.
    so what you're saying is, they don't pay a fee to use the language tools in EU? because that is all IME is a language tool about the same as the ones used in all of the EU countries, not really a whole lot different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    IME is a MS program SE can't use it in their games for free if they did MS would sue them.
    While it's rather obvious what you are referring to, Microsoft does not own “IME”. I guess you are speaking of the Microsoft Pinyin IME? There are plenty of other Input Method Editors out there, free, and open source, such as SCIM and UIM (hail Linux, ha!), but that's irrelevant if you already do indeed have the IME bundled or otherwise acquired.

    And as above, so below, using the bundled-with-windoze Microsoft IMEs does not require any extra payment, or do you really think every software there is has paid for it? For the consoles it's obviously a different story and this might be one reason why they did not look into it yet (because they couldn't do it for all the platforms but now the winds of change blow so perhaps they could look into this at last, for the users of the windows version, that is).

    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    No, the IME is already built-into Windows for any program to use. The issue isn't that they have to pay MS, it's that on the PS2, the IME is different and does require a license, to a company called ATOK.
    ATOK is the IME. The company is JustSystems. ^^;


    On another note: Everything displayed in the logs of FFXI already go into test-files within FFXI folders so it probably shouldn't be overly difficult to enable Copy & Paste.
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    Oh, I forgot to mention this. For those who are very comfortable with the old UI, it will be possible to choose between the new and old UIs.
    This is an either-or selection, so it would not be possible to use parts of the new UI.
    easy fix so gamepad user can use new UI: change the underlined/bolded part !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SE can't do this unless they pay MS for licensing fees for the NA and EU versions. The chances of that happening are slim to none given very few people with the NA version would use it.
    Count me among that small crowd. :P

    Still, I don't get why/how one big corporation has this monopoly thing going on where only they have the rights to market their program that types in different languages. That's like a copyright on a human language. -_-;;;
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    Last edited by Midorikaze; 05-09-2012 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SE can't do this unless they pay MS for licensing fees for the NA and EU versions. The chances of that happening are slim to none given very few people with the NA version would use it.
    No, the IME is already built-into Windows for any program to use. The issue isn't that they have to pay MS, it's that on the PS2, the IME is different and does require a license, to a company called ATOK. It's about $60 a user. There's also the additional cost of tech support if someone accidentally hits the key combination to toggle the IME and has no idea how to use it, and is stuck in Japanese text input mode. They figure if you know enough Japanese to type it, you'll install the Japanese client and just read all the Japanese text there.
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