Please implement countermeasures for cheaters in Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region

[Zelduh]

I've been reading all of the main FFXI Community Boards, and many people are extremely excited to use illegal third party tools to gain an unfair advantage over other players by being able to use these tools to circumvent the mechanics that were intended for Nyzul Isle. Please implement a countermeasure change of some sort that will prevent players from utilizing this exploit to their advantage and hurting other players as well as disrupting the balance of the game. Thank you.

[Agetos]

True some people were talking about it on the ffxiah forums. someone should try and monitor if they can. But as far as the new content goes it's extremely nice. the drop rates are very fair and the new floor system is very interesting. it can either help you get to a boss floor faster or be a cruel mistress and put you 1 floor over what you wanted. considering all the new gear that can come from the different boss floors i'd say the chances of getting to floor 100 are very slim but that is to be expected for the +5 final form gear which btw is extremely sexy looking. Very nice work on this one devs.

[Castoth]

The only reason such talk has erupted is due to how terrible this event is. If Square made it possible so that floors 80-100 could be reliably reached by a competent party *without* cheating, I'm sure the talk would die off. As it stands, the event is a gigantic waste of time and no sense of progression is achieved; it's all based on dumb, extreme luck.

[Eurell]

The only reason such talk has erupted is due to how terrible this event is. If Square made it possible so that floors 80-100 could be reliably reached by a competent party *without* cheating, I'm sure the talk would die off. As it stands, the event is a gigantic waste of time and no sense of progression is achieved; it's all based on dumb, extreme luck.

this ^

At an average of 5 floors per ??? jump, you would still have to beat 20 floors (more if a ??? jump could put you past floor 100, in which case you would want to start going one floor at a time around 94 or so). And after beating all those floors in under 90 seconds a floor, you would still only have a 1/15 chance to get the piece you are after. It's a horrible system as it stands.

Honestly, it probably would have been perfect if it was set up like old Nyzul as far as, feet on floor 20, legs on 40, etc, let you save your floors and start somewhere above 1 (even if it was only every 10 floors instead of 5 to maintain balance lol) and then just involved some sort of Magian trial to upgrade the gear. Something like kill the floor 20 boss 5 times to upgrade a feet piece wouldve been fine. That would've been very time consuming, but at least given people a chance to make progress on their gear every day. As it stands now, It's a completely luck based event with 0 progression.

I admit there might be something the player base is missing of course (its only been a day so far), but it's not like Nyzul is a new event. People already know what we have to do to progress, the only confusing thing so far is why the disc bothers to record your progress, when it starts you at floor 1 every time.

[wish12oz]

The best way to avoid people resorting to hacking, is to add content that doesn't require it, not content that basically demands you hack to get anywhere. I am not promoting hacking, I am simply mad at SE for designing content that is so poorly executed the only way to almost effectively go about trying to complete it is to hack. And even with that, you're still not going to accomplish anything most of the time. Personally, I refuse to even be involved in this trash event, the only 2 items I even wanted were nerfed and made basically useless anyway, so I don't care.

Really though, I am amazed SE managed to design something that is actually WORSE then voidwatch...

[Xantavia]

The best way to avoid people resorting to hacking, is to add content that doesn't require it, not content that basically demands you hack to get anywhere.

Some people will still try to find a shortcut, whether it seems to require it or not. Back when Hagun went for several million, people would use datswaps in order to make the ENM easier to complete. It wasn't impossible to win with a regular group, but people still found an excuse to cheat.

[wish12oz]

Some people will still try to find a shortcut, whether it seems to require it or not. Back when Hagun went for several million, people would use datswaps in order to make the ENM easier to complete. It wasn't impossible to win with a regular group, but people still found an excuse to cheat.

But in your story, none-cheaters could also win. In new Nyzul.... no one wins, but the cheaters will get a lot closer.

[Godofgods]

The best way to avoid people resorting to hacking, is to add content that doesn't require it

Man, you ppl never stop complaining. And that statement ^^ is asinine beyond belief. If you don't want ppl to cheat, don't make content that is hard. Seriously? And of course if it were easy then you would be complaining about the game having no challenge to it. ... ... ... Oh wait, ppl already are'


People need to remember, their are 20 drastically different jobs. Their are ppl playing every day, and some once a week if their lucky. Some then spend eternity gaining better equipment, some that just get what time allows them to.
Their is a drastic range of everything in players. You'll never be able to make something thats perfect for every single one!

[MarkovChain]

give me gear for free or I'm going to cheat

Typical BG nerds. Well anyway those that cheat probably suck to much to achieve anything ; I've read the DRKx2 SCHx2 strat today it made me laugh. When It comes to nyzlulz, gimps are pretty efficient at findings new strategies that for their fail jobs. Follow pchan's advise, and use a balance PT, let the bard afk at start and use troubador on kill-all floors. One thing is certain is if you party is made of sch, cors and drk, cheating is necessary to win.

Cheating is bad !

Idk what's going on with the nyzul complaints but on the test server I made it solo to floor 23 on PUP. So if you are 6 .... I hope floor 100 is 1% drop rate.

[wish12oz]

Typical BG nerds. Well anyway those that cheat probably suck to much to achieve anything ; I've read the DRKx2 SCHx2 strat today it made me laugh. When It comes to nyzlulz, gimps are pretty efficient at findings new strategies that for their fail jobs. Follow pchan's advise, and use a balance PT, let the bard afk at start and use troubador on kill-all floors. One thing is certain is if you party is made of sch, cors and drk, cheating is necessary to win.

Cheating is bad !

Idk what's going on with the nyzul complaints but on the test server I made it solo to floor 23 on PUP. So if you are 6 .... I hope floor 100 is 1% drop rate.

Oh look, here comes pchan to chime in and say how awesome he is and how he can do everything so easy. Guess what pchan, you never killed Dragua without a brew, you never duo'd an ADL pop, you never 6 manned ADL, you never did anything you ever said you could do. So I'm not even going to waste the time to ask where your video is of you being on floor 100, or where your floor 100 gear is, because I know you don't have any. Just like you don't have the sense to read what I actually posted, you just changed what I said to suit your own need to try and make me look bad because you can't counter my actual argument. At no point did I say I would cheat, in other posts I even went so far as to say I will not being doing this craptastic event, until they fix it. So apparently not doing something is cheating in pchan world, how exactly does that work?

EDIT: I also don't know what a maljority is, or what point you're trying to convey here, could you please explain it to me?

No it's not everyone (but you) know what maljority means.

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