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    Player Sagagemini's Avatar
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    Suggestion: Remove Abyssea Time restrictions

    Hello SE Devs. I returned to FFXI after some months and unfortunately found myself far away from the majority of the server. Most players now don't even bother anymore with Abyssea farming for +1 and +2, specially Linkshells where these things get done efficiently.

    Of course asking for players to change their attention to Abyssea at this time is pointless so i would like to ask any SE representative to start really considering the idea of removing the time limit inside Abyssea. While it might have served its purpose at launch, now with much less players interested in it, it became a painful experience to try to go there and deal with smaller things by yourself.

    While you can always go for TE in groups, or abyssite farming it still doesn't help to solve the major problem that is having to fight not against mobs, the lack of proccing and horrible drops as a solo or duo player, but the fight against time and having to teleport countless times in and out. It gets tiring.

    Its a major let down not only for new Abyssea players, but even for those like myself, who wants to acquire +2 items but can't rely on LS anymore (random groups are not an option due to most of them being fail). Endgame shells are onto newer things and social shells are just chat.

    To those players who advanced from Abyssea this doesn't matter anymore. But for those who are still there struggling for gear with less players caring to help and needing stuff there the time limit is a huge issue now. Either increase the time limit inside from 120min to 240 at least or just remove it altogether.


    Thank you for reading.
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    Or let us keep the extra minutes we do acquire when we are with a group. I hate loosing all that extra time. But I agree, time is crazy when you are soloing and its not as easy to get te's.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    I wouldn't even say that it isn't easy (because it is), but it simply isn't needed anymore. Time simply isn't restricted, because everyone has a shitload of stones ready. And in a FC you get several hours overtime easily, too. The only thing the Abyssea time restriction does currently is to annoy people because they have to reenter all the time. Unless they find another use for traverser stones (like exchanging them for voidstones, for example), there is just no need to be restricted by the arbitrary stone mechanic anymore.
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    Player Dazusu's Avatar
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    There are so many reasons why time restrictions removal would be a stupid idea. Not to mention the lure of Abyssea.

    People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested. If you don't have any friends - that sucks for you. Level BST
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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    without removing time restriction, can raise maximum time you can get from stones, (use more stones, not more time per stones)

    lvl BST is not the best idea for farming +1/2 item (no procs)

    can also team up with people farming items for their weapon
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Please don't SE.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested.
    As opposed to now? The few people who still want or need stuff from there are already there, all day, every day, and it's no problem, because everyone has hundreds of stones to waste. The only exception is the occasional timeout when people forgot to check their time. Speaking of which, they should remove or reduce the re-entry time too.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    This doesn't need to be changed. You're supposed to earn the abyssites that help you to stay in longer. Eventually you will have 98475 stones and couldn't use them all up if you tried, even if you're solo/duo farming.
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    Abuse parties like I do. Last night I just wanted to solo skillup archery on worms so I joined a worm party long enough to get my lights capped and some extra time and then solo'd the rest of the time. I would have just stayed in the party, but things die to fast. Anyway, no reason you can't do that when you want to farm a zone also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    There are so many reasons why time restrictions removal would be a stupid idea. Not to mention the lure of Abyssea.

    People would idle in there 24 hours a day, botting your favourite NMs like Gukumatz. The zones would become congested. If you don't have any friends - that sucks for you. Level BST
    The point is nobody does that stuff anymore, it won't become congested because most players have several +1/+2. Hell, in my case I have 82/100 +1, 6 jobs that can even use it (30/100) and 52 extra +1 from nothing else but free drops in empyrean runs. Same holds true for several +2 (though not as many as +1) The point I'm getting at is those areas are dead. Besides, cut time limits and you could just as easily gold farm as fight the NM since there is no fear of timing out should you not be able to TE or it goes sour. Besides most solo classes can't solo TE at such an abundant rate, THF DNC BST and so on, plus TE drains while you are logged out, and heaven forbid if you die w/o rr.

    The issue also isn't about lack of time from stones, rather the need to reset them for a soloer or small group. Dropping lights every so often undermines the use of gold chests for KI making soloers need to get the NM actually Increasing congestion. (if you can call it that anymore)

    As far as I can tell aside from brand new players who haven't built stones there is 0 reason this would be detrimental. Is it critical? No. Would it help? Yes. Would it hurt anyone/thing No.
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