Attacking Monsters with an Avatar While Being AFK.

[Karbuncle]

So, Just a quick show of hands. How many people here even knew this happened or was an issue/occurring before they announced to stop doing it?

[Yinnyth]

So, Just a quick show of hands. How many people here even knew this happened or was an issue/occurring before they announced to stop doing it?

I knew it was happening. I went to the grauberg chigoes for a dagger trial a few months back. Found it strange how there was a SMN at every chigoe pop location, and none of them had trial weapons on. Decided to come back after work. They were still there. Decided that mess wasn't worth my time and went to Bhaflau spiders instead.

Didn't breathe a word of it to anyone but my friend though.

[Sarick]

But of course, if "I can't do X, no one else should be able to do Y."

Taking refuge with sarcasm because your too afraid to say what is really on your mind? Apparently everyone must believe that wrongs aren't wrong if they're done by nice people like ourselves. After all, seeing these players AFK farming proves one important thing. They're intelligent enough to get away with it just too lazy to get up and work for it.

[Sarick]

So, Just a quick show of hands. How many people here even knew this happened or was an issue/occurring before they announced to stop doing it?

I ignored it for the most part until things got strange. You see I try to be friendly to people who are camping with me in the same area. I'll usually send a tell saying "Hello" and ask what they're doing. I normally offer to team up especially, if they're doing a trial or xping a fellow. In these cases the players didn't even acknowledge my presence.

The strage part is for the AFKers farming, they would randomly attack/follow mobs I provoked and disengaged that where close to them.They would then blindly proceed to follow me if I dragging the mob across the zone. The way I see things is anyone with even tiny bit of intelligence could figure out what was going on here. Yinnyth called this incompetence. No!, it's something worse.

[Llana_Virren]

Taking refuge with sarcasm because your too afraid to say what is really on your mind?

I've made it very clear what was on my mind, and have repeated it several times. Sarcasm may be your defensive mechanism, but it's my way of saying "you can't fix stupid, so you might as well blend in."

[Yinnyth]

So, don't play oblivious onlooker you know exactly whats going on here.

No, I really don't. My best guess would be that even if someone did report the afk SMNs to the GMs, that information was lost in beaurocracy and nothing ever came of it. Instead, I'm thinking the STF managed to trace RMT funds all the way back to some afk SMN in grauberg, then noticed a ton of other SMNs doing the same thing. One thing lead to another, big public announcement, overblown community reaction.

[Tamoa]

So, Just a quick show of hands. How many people here even knew this happened or was an issue/occurring before they announced to stop doing it?

Never heard of it happening before SE's announcement, neither has anyone I know in game.


Judging from posts in this thread, 2 people have actually seen it happen, both on Fenrir.

[Kristal]

Frankly I'm surprised they're devoting so much attention to this issue. I mean, I'm aware its more or less abusing game mechanics in order to obtain something more easily, But it just seems like such a small issue. But oh well...

It's a small, but highly visible problem. And the solution is very simple as well: declare it illegal and have the player community deal with detecting the bugbuggers. Nyzul isle cheating is several degrees more severe, but it's also in a far more private setting (you don't affect others directly, for example) for a far shorter time period (30 min vs 24/7) and with a far more difficult solution (multiple ways to cheat, (very) difficult to detect, etc).

[Camiie]

I'd seen it and heard of it happening, but never have done it myself. I still see no reason to care and I won't be playing policewoman unless SE starts cutting me a check.

[Tamoa]

So far it looks Fenrir-specific only.