Where's OUR discount?

[Alhanelem]

And we're not? XI players aren't just sticking around, being ignored while S-E throws all their effort at XIV, we're funding it!

No, XIV's players are funding it.

A lower subscription fee for a lower service standard.

If you're still paying your $12.95, then obviously this supposed lower service standard doesn't bother you. If it does bother you, feel free to speak with your wallet and stop paying.

We are entitled to get our money's worth.

Yes, you are. And if you're not getting your money's worth, you're entitled to quit playing or demand better service- not demand a discount just because some other game that performed worse than this one is being discounted or priced lower.

Also, please present the offical square enix budget sheet showing the dollars collected from his game that are being placed in XIV's budget account.

[Elexia]

And how long ago was that? How many months (at $12.95/ea.) have gone by since anything like that happened?

In the time since Wings was wrapped up, XIV players got a whole new game, and will have a second whole new game before S-E even thinks of throwing a $10 add-on our way.

It's been awhile, XIV is a game being overhauled. A Newer MMO being overhauled. FFXI is an established MMO with being this late in life, it's not going to get grand content addtitions. Even EQ's expansions aren't what they used to be because its an OLD game lol.

We are entitled to get our money's worth. We aren't getting half the attention XIV is, yet we're paying a third more.

Let's see...

FFXIV: Being overhauled, in development, barely 2 years old.
FFXI: Not being overhauled, 10 years old, not in development.

I think that about sums it up.

We pay month by month. What has your $12.95 gotten you in the past month?

My $14.95 last month got me continued access to do the content available in FFXI that I haven't completed yet (This is an MMO btw.)

And we're not?

To my knowledge FFXI isn't being overhauled unless they announce it at the Japanese Fanfest or E3.

we're funding it!

I funded it by playing Wakfu. I funded it by buying every other SE product. FFXI isn't XIV's fund source (you also pay monthly or in 3-6 month time periods, by the way.)

So beyond entitlement, XI isn't really deserving of a discount. XI is a VERY old MMO now, hell most MMOs these days don't even last 5 years if you've noticed, most that have are already older MMOs that's been around before the MMO rush.

A lower subscription fee for a lower service standard.

In all actuality, they should have dropped the service fee everytime they didn't release an expansion pack if this is the logic being used. Why did I pay $14.95+ in 2004 before CoP? Why did I in 2005 with NO expansion packs? Why did I in 2007 before WoTG? Why did I in 2008 with no add-ons? They can't just drop the fee just because you're not satisfied with completing 100% of FFXI's content and want more bang for your buck.

...Did you complete 100% of FFXI's content? If so I apologize, you do need a discount for having nothing to do.

[Alhanelem]

Just ignore him. Crap like this comes up whenever any company offers people a discount on anything. You always get someone whining about why they don't get one.

[Luvbunny]

Unless you can prove to me that you would of came here posting crying for a discount even if they didn't offer this FFXIV program, you don't have a leg to stand on- Unless you were about to quit anyway, FFXI was still worth your $12.95.

Do you even read their announcement? They basically giving those people a $9.95 price LOCKED in FOREVER in the lifetime of the game, version 1 or 2 or version 100.... That is the price!! By offering the same price discount to the loyal FFXI paying subscribers they would make nice and get more support. They can even give us option to pay $10 bucks a month if we sign up for a yearly plan or keep the normal rate for people that pays month by month. Basically rewarding those who plan to stick it for the year and offering the same original rate for people who may just play for a couple of months and take a break or quit.

[Alhanelem]

Do you even read their announcement? They basically giving those people a $9.95 price LOCKED in FOREVER in the lifetime of the game, version 1 or 2 or version 100.... That is the price!

yeah, annnnd?

What's the problem with this? These people are being rewarded for putting up with the game in its flawed state. You realize how loyal these customers are and are likely to become as a result? Do you also realize how small the game's playerbase is right now? A few years from noew, the vast majority of players will be paying full price. It's just the small number of people patient enough to pay for a defective game that this is directed at.

[Zumi]

On FFXI people seem content to pay the current price. That might change if they saw a mass drop off in subs but so far that hasn't happened. You can get on during a weekend and still see over 3000 people playing FFXI.

[Rosalie]

Also, there WAS a discount for FFXI if you were also a FFXIV subscriber.

What I'd like is just to continue the discount for paying for both ._.; but I don't think that's going to happen.

[Alhanelem]

What I'd like is just to continue the discount for paying for both ._.; but I don't think that's going to happen.

True... this will be the last month (as far as I know) to get that bonus. You pay just a little more than the base sub fee for XI to play both. Nice deal while it lasted. One of SE's big problems is they don't seem to know a dang thing about marketing. I'd probably continue to subscribe to both (due to my current on-again-off-again play with both games) if this remained in effect.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

FFXI is an established MMO with being this late in life, it's not going to get grand content addtitions.

Then why are we still paying like it will?

FFXIV: Being overhauled, in development, barely 2 years old.
FFXI: Not being overhauled, 10 years old, not in development.

Then why are we paying more for a game that isn't in development?

I funded it by buying every other SE product.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Offline games are products, while your subscription here is a service. And as it stands, others are getting more service for less money, and from the same service provider.

XI is a VERY old MMO now

Then why hasn't the subscription fee deprecated?

Why did I pay $14.95+ in 2004 before CoP?

You had an expectation of continued commitment on S-E's part. Today, S-E is instead demonstrating commitment to XIV at the apparent expense of XI. The situation is different, so the price should be different.

Did you complete 100% of FFXI's content?

The goalpost for "100% completion" hasn't significantly moved in a very long time, and there are diminishing returns. Yet the subscription fee itself hasn't diminished.

[Midorikaze]

Then why hasn't the subscription fee deprecated?

Today, S-E is instead demonstrating commitment to XIV at the apparent expense of XI. The situation is different, so the price should be different.

The goalpost for "100% completion" hasn't significantly moved in a very long time, and there are diminishing returns. Yet the subscription fee itself hasn't diminished.

Indeed, after almost 10 years...Why hasn't it?