Where's OUR discount?

[Alhanelem]

Just ignore him. Crap like this comes up whenever any company offers people a discount on anything. You always get someone whining about why they don't get one.

[Alhanelem]

Do you even read their announcement? They basically giving those people a $9.95 price LOCKED in FOREVER in the lifetime of the game, version 1 or 2 or version 100.... That is the price!

yeah, annnnd?

What's the problem with this? These people are being rewarded for putting up with the game in its flawed state. You realize how loyal these customers are and are likely to become as a result? Do you also realize how small the game's playerbase is right now? A few years from noew, the vast majority of players will be paying full price. It's just the small number of people patient enough to pay for a defective game that this is directed at.

[Zumi]

On FFXI people seem content to pay the current price. That might change if they saw a mass drop off in subs but so far that hasn't happened. You can get on during a weekend and still see over 3000 people playing FFXI.

[Alhanelem]

Probably, they have lowered it but then passed increased logistical costs on to us thus leaving the price where it is.

[Aequis]

XIV doesn't have near the amount of content we do in XI yet. It's also not established and doesn't have the stability of XI. I have played it on and off since October last year and I was an alpha/beta tester also. For a long time it was unplayable without some degree of frustration and things you take for granted in XI (delivery boxes, a real auction house, an actual use for food, explorable landscapes, reraise/sneak/invis) either don't exist, or we're only just getting them. The healer job - Conjurer - didn't have any form or -na spell or Erase / Esuna until they added White mage last month.

A lower subscription cost is the reward for sticking with them throughout all of that and staying an active subscriber. Plus XIV has a better, kinder, more understanding producer, whilst we're just stuck with Tanaka here. Voidwatch sums up pretty much everything I hate about XI right now.

Another fact that is apparent in XIV if you're in a linkshell with people that have played since release is, there isn't much for them to do any more. All their classes are lv50, they've done several crafts to lv50 and they've done most of their AF for the advanced jobs like WHM or BLM (some isn't worth doing over buyable equip). So unless they start over, those numbers on Legacy subscriptions are going to drop off as long-time players quit.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

XIV doesn't have near the amount of content we do in XI yet.

Yes, and it's about the same amount of content XI had last month, and the month before that, and the month before that, and the month before that, ad nauseam. So why still the same price? Are there really that many new players coming into the game?

It's also not established and doesn't have the stability of XI.

"Stable" can also mean "boring," or "stale."

I propose that everyone keeps complaining on this forum about job balance, etc. because there's precious little to distract people from these issues any more. The dev team needs to fix these longstanding and previously minor issues now because there's nothing major left to gloss over the small stuff.

Another fact that is apparent in XIV if you're in a linkshell with people that have played since release is, there isn't much for them to do any more.

Meanwhile, nobody's left in my XI social linkshell because there isn't much for us to do any more, either. The few members that haven't quit outright spend most of their time in an endgame/grind linkshell instead.

[Midorikaze]

Pledging that discount for "the duration of FFXIV's service" is quite bold. And, FFXI has been around for a lot longer yet long-time players don't get to see much appreciation for 9-10 years of patronage compared to FFXIV's 2 years. Sure, there was a total game rebuild but they also got a free-to-play period on top of this Legacy discount.

I just don't understand it.

[Elexia]

I just don't understand it.

Have you done every bit of content FFXI has to offer? No? Then what's the problem? XIV is a game being OVERHAULED and rereleased, life time discount is something for the CURRENT players that NEW players WILL NOT get. It's a "THANK YOU".

Why should FFXI players get a "thank you for playing"...? Your "thank you" is the tons of the content they gave over the span of 10 years lol. This sense of entitlement is amazing.

[RAIST]

Have you done every bit of content FFXI has to offer? No? Then what's the problem? XIV is a game being OVERHAULED and rereleased, life time discount is something for the CURRENT players that NEW players WILL NOT get. It's a "THANK YOU".

Why should FFXI players get a "thank you for playing"...? Your "thank you" is the tons of the content they gave over the span of 10 years lol. This sense of entitlement is amazing.

You may be defeating your argument somewhat. Other games have been around for less time and have even gone free to play either completely or partially (or were F2P from the start) and continued to recieve new content.

The bigger point is the QoS is nowhere near what it once was, and in some aspects continues to decline----and yet, they are still charging the same price as 10 years ago.

[Camiie]

Why should FFXI players get a "thank you for playing"...? Your "thank you" is the tons of the content they gave over the span of 10 years lol. This sense of entitlement is amazing.

Why should FFXIV players get a thank you? So they paid for a game that turned out to suck. Big whoop. Been there, done that, didn't ever even get a t-shirt. Back in the day you didn't even get an "I'm sorry we'll do better next time." You were just stuck with a bad game.

I don't think anyone here is asking for anything that SE isn't already offering to a portion of their customers, so I don't agree with the entitlement angle. It's more like, "If them why not us?" If you see that entitlement then that's fine. I don't see it that way, and I don't really care if you do or not.