Where's OUR discount?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/43218

Oh, look: anybody's who's paid for XIV for more than 90 days earns a permanent discount on XIV 2.0 for the life of the game.

Meanwhile, I've been here since January '05 or so, and the only change I've seen in my monthly fee is a slight increase when you switched from monthly to 30-day billing.

It was already insulting to be paying more money for less service while it was a temporary, "until 2.0" situation. And now it will be permanent for just about everyone currently playing XIV?

Where's our goddess damned money's worth!?

[Zumi]

I knew someone was going to post this when they announced that discount thing for FFXIV.

The thing is if you don't feel your getting your moneys worth you have no obligation to keep paying them.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

The thing is if you don't feel your getting your moneys worth you have no obligation to keep paying them.

And that attitude is going to build brand loyalty how?

How long before the Next Shiny Project makes XIV players themselves second-class customers? Will they be expected to hold their breath every time a new FF game is announced, hoping that it won't be an MMO?

[Camiie]

Because they need us paying full price for a game with a skeleton crew and half-arsed support so they can give a discount to the "loyal" FFXIV players.

We're not going to get any discounts or thanked or our names in any credits. We're not seen as loyal valued customers to SE. We're like the current customers of a cable or cell phone provider while the XIV subscribers are the new or returning customers. We don't get special pricing or advanced new features. They've already got us signed up, so we're just lowly trash. We are supposed to feel lucky that we get any support at all on our outdated services and overpriced plans.

[Elexia]

Uh...no. There shouldn't be a discount for FFXI. It's a long established MMORPG. Don't like the price? Stop paying it and move on.

And that attitude is going to build brand loyalty how?

10 years.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

10 years.

It wasn't until details of "Project Rapture" hit the press that the player base even started to seriously consider the idea of "an end to FFXI." There was no indication of a lack of commitment on S-E's part until it was pretty much too late.

Now, going forward, FFXIV players will always have an example of what "The End" will look like when it's their turn. Any whiff of a new game coming down the pipe (coupled with S-E's reputation for openness with information), and the playerbase will have legitimate reason to believe that it's now their turn on the chopping block. They'll get out while the getting's good.

I don't believe anybody seriously worried about the future of XI when XII or even XIII were released. Now, news of XV will breed panic among XIV players, leading to fleeing players dumping gil and accounts on eBay and generally hastening the game's demise outright.

[Dazusu]

You're paying for the game. You're happy with it (you've been here since '05), what's the complaint for? FFXIV sucks. People should be paying less for it.

[Ashido]

Well with the anniversary it would be nice if SE would give those long term players a gift of their choosing . But who am i kidding , we'll get some crappy npc statue , useless item with some glow effect . Actually we'll probably all get a Statue of a GM That glows .

[Alhanelem]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/43218

Oh, look: anybody's who's paid for XIV for more than 90 days earns a permanent discount on XIV 2.0 for the life of the game.

Meanwhile, I've been here since January '05 or so, and the only change I've seen in my monthly fee is a slight increase when you switched from monthly to 30-day billing.

It was already insulting to be paying more money for less service while it was a temporary, "until 2.0" situation. And now it will be permanent for just about everyone currently playing XIV?

Where's our goddess damned money's worth!?

You don't deserve it. You weren't paying for a beta.

Also, there WAS a discount for FFXI if you were also a FFXIV subscriber.

The thing is if you don't feel your getting your moneys worth you have no obligation to keep paying them.

This.

The FFXIV legacy campaign is specifically there to reward the players who had the patience to sit through over 1 year of broken game before they finally got their acts together.

You aren't beta testing a broken down mess. You're playing a game that's tried and tested and lasted 10 years.

FFXIV sucks. People should be paying less for it.

Please be careful about throwing around statements like that. Fact is, post launch I would have agreed with you. no content, unresponsive UI, tons of missing features, buggy mechanics, etc. But now, most of that is gone- multiple raids, boss battles, jobs, NMs, there's a decent amount of stuff to do now, the new battle mechanics are much better, and whatever isn't better yet will be better in 2.0.

It's fine if you don't like the game, but you could give a decent reason why.

Now, news of XV

I haven't heard of any news about XV, but where did you get the idea it's another MMORPG? Why would an MMORPG player be worried about a non-MMO? If you can prove that it is, then of course SE should just shoot themselves now while they still can. But til then, you're full of crap.

[Alhanelem]

Come to think about it, this game "11" is/was kinda in a broken down mess.

That's somewhat open to interpretation, but the point is, this isn't a game that horribly crashed and burned thus needing a total rewrite and rebuild to be completely playable and fun. Nor is it a game that (for financial reasons) had to ask players who were effectively still testing a beta (considering how long fees were suspended) to start paying money while they continued to work on fixing stuff that never worked when the old team dumped it in their lap.