[dev1107] Sange Update - Why?

[Bulrogg]

Perhaps you misunderstood my post?

I did not intend to imply that Sange is a great tool for hate generation in regards to tanking big events. I said "a great use for Sange is at the moment of a mobs repositioning."

In fact, I've said in the numerous threads we're not discussing Ninja tanking events. We are talking about making use of tactics that are available to a job when you are in conditions that are less than optimal. It appears as if you and 12oz are just trying to complicate things.

We have clearly agreed that /war is the best DMG and tanking /sub for Ninja.
Now, the rest of us would like to continue to discuss the updates SE has is sight for Sange and the 2012 road map. Anything else you and 12oz have to say will only be regarded as trying to provoke a problematic response.


EDIT- apparantly my spell check thought I was talking about a show from early 2000.

[vixin]

i think above all should shurikens become as good as they were in the past people are weiry of the money they would be investing i think above all. If that is the case most mats im sure would be easy to obtain and finding a cafter to assist wwhould not be hard.

[Bulrogg]

There is a presence of players [EU/JP/NA] that choose to use sange and throwing as needed; cheers to SE for continuing to update/adjust that aspect of the job.

I look forward to autumn to see what adjustments are in sight for ranged attack delay. I'm really hoping their only targets aren't RNG and COR.

I'd like to see an adjustment if possible to make Sange activate like Quickdraw.

[wish12oz]

There is a presence of players [EU/JP/NA] that choose to use sange and throwing as needed;

Originally I was going to write something else, but seriously, name me 1 instance, ONE, where throwing is at all useful. Can you even name one?

I also require you to PROVE it is useful in whatever instance you name.

[vixin]

nice mile long post 12oz but one thing, You are Wrong remember that kido.

and for that one instance where "Throwing" is useful you remember Dark Ixion right?

[Darwena]

nice mile long post 12oz but one thing, You are Wrong remember that kido.

and for that one instance where "Throwing" is useful you remember Dark Ixion right?

Why throwing will be better than melee on Ixion? He said prove it... you not proving me I should bring Shuriken to beat that NM over melee him...

[vixin]

he asked when was throwing ever useful i did state a reason if your pre aby which it sounds like let me speed you up to date only way you can ever claim is ixion is utlizing throwing skills to land stygi ash on him i think that plays a huge part there, not to mention back at lv 75 when using winds on sky gods.

[SpankWustler]

and for that one instance where "Throwing" is useful you remember Dark Ixion right?

Because the damage dealt by the thrown Stygian Ash didn't matter, pretty much anyone on any job using something to aid with accuracy worked. During that dark and miserable time when I was fighting Dark Ixion every day, I remember some dude playing two Preludes on himself and claiming the awful thing with his Bard.

Certain jobs worked better, Ranger rather than Ninja probably worked best, but this answer is obviously out of the Ninja-related context of Wish's question. Claiming Dark Ixion was more of a Ranged Accuracy check than a Throwing Check, unless an individual had never skilled Throwing up at all.

This is one step above saying that throwing matters because it's a great way to make a monster suprisingly mad from a very long distance, when it doesn't even matter if the attack lands or not.

While we're giving clever answers, spooking Dark Ixion required no Throwing Skill or Ranged Accuracy whatsoever, and doing that to spite another group was usually more fun than fighting the thing.

[vixin]

While we're giving clever answers, spooking Dark Ixion required no Throwing Skill or Ranged Accuracy whatsoever, and doing that to spite another group was usually more fun than fighting the thing.

gonna need some proof becasue nothing you said has any credit untill you do so.

[SpankWustler]

gonna need some proof becasue nothing you said has any credit untill you do so.

Sorry. English probably isn't your first language so I guess my weird sarcasm doesn't make a lot of sense. I'll explain.

The last paragraph refers to simply walking up to Dark Ixion, prompting the monster to run away and vanish, meaning that no one gets to fight it for a little while. A useful tactic when you wanted no one to fight Dark Ixion for a little while because it's funnier that way.

This is an entirely separate process from claiming Dark Ixion and fighting it, the process to which every paragraph above the last referred. To be very brief, the last paragraph was a joke and "spook" can mean to frighten a horse.

Does that make more sense?