Mk, got it, you ARE saying that playing NIN better means 'having co-tank and having no one else pulling hate on hate reset mobs'. Sorry for that, I honestly didn't think that your definition of average or substandard play was that.

Also it's in the other thread but I have already mentioned your own math doesn't show that, it shows specifically that at a certain point of multi attacks per round throwing is always outpaced by melee damage. It does not in fact show that Sange, particularly not in the moment where the enemy moves (are you really claiming there's a difference in overall shift between doing the Sange damage, and the time it takes for the enemy to get back into your melee range after the Provoke?) is not worth using.

But yes, I am completely admitting to being bad in the sense that sometimes I tank things alone and sometimes the BLM with me takes hate after a Reset because they have more hate than the BRD (note I'm not supporting Sange with THAT admission because I don't use it then, though I probably should).

Sorry for that, carry on.