ok for startes how you play nin is up to you, if you perfer dw only or hybrid with san spells more power to you. what i dont agree is with you and yes you have attacked me personally and state i disagaree with anyone whow plays different than me is false. I do like shurikens and atm with level cap yeah i admit it is pretty crappy that se makes a lv 80 shuriken after all this time only to be stackable to 12 with a lower base dmg than Koga. In comparison to all Jobs using single hand weapons nin is by far behind, thf, dnc, and blu hav access to dw3 w/o nin allowing them to sub war/drk w/e they perfer and have ja that allow thier ws to do added DA TA or induce crit on a nin crit ws with dex/agi mod or 20% crit dmg bonus . Nin has only been given innin that helps blade hi or blade yu at most our mab spells are no where near using like you and most people agree to add into out dot sicne dmg is inferior to DW. Yet our ws dmg isnt no where near where it should be vs job growth on others similar to us.