Agree 100% with the OP here. Vixin... you think you smater than Wish12oz... It's not the case. You're post never help me improve my skill as Ninja in the game. Wish12oz at least, even if we don't have always the same opinion, help a lot of Ninja (new and vets) with some good arguments, hints and some games mechanics.

About Sange... this is the worst useless merits point since the level cap is removed (and even before). I was a throwing star Ninja back in time. Now, this is just a waste of time, money and space in inventory. Why?

Here few point:

1- To make it effective, you need shurikens, a lot of Shurikens. Here the Shurikens FFXI have to offer:

Stack: 99. Best effing Shuriken of the game! Only problem: you can't craft them and it a "BCNM" from one of 3 Quest in Aht Urgan area. 1 drop per qst and meed a min of 3. Since lot of ppl already throw rock at Wish12oz when he said just make a WHM mule or some friend for making an empyrean... Neway even if you do it 20 time per day... will take a week to get "ONE" Stack.

Iga Shuriken: [Ammo] All Races
DPS: 2500 DMG:80 Delay:192 Ranged Accuracy+10
LV 80 NIN

Stack: 12. 2nd best DMG output. Can be craftable. problem: Stack of 12. That mean 2 Sange and you throw already a stack, so you need to bring a couple of stack (and not mention Throwing gear huh?!?). So not effective.


Stack: 12. Same probleme as Iga.


Stack: 99. The only one that worth bringing. But you gimp you're DMG compare to simply melee mob.

The only thing Sange could be usefull is for TP build and event in that case, With all gear we already need to bring, Melee stay the best option. (I won't prove my point, Wish12oz did it enough time in most post where Throwing is discuted).