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  1. #61
    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Lakshmi
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    DNC Lv 99
    I went and tested out the new Apollyon zone on the test server. It's a bunch of demons that can 2-hour. I think I used Fan Dance . . . once? Against the boss? Really what I needed was more damage (rode Saber). I could barely kill an entire group of demons in half an hour (mostly because the bosses had so much HP).

    But yeah, if I can solo content that isn't even released yet and is designed for a party without using Fan Dance, what is a possible justification for it?
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  2. #62
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    Dnc can without much effort, get 26% waltz potency and be using desulter -5 cost and -2 delay head.
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  3. #63
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    I---what? ....
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  4. #64
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    An extra 18 seconds to Haste Samba with 5/5 Saber Dance is very... underwhelming. If it weren't for the Relic+2 Pants augment, I would be removing 4 of my merits from Saber Dance.
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    Last edited by Thoraeon; 05-16-2012 at 04:17 AM.

  5. #65
    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    24 seconds, unless they nerfed it?
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    Oh yes, because 24 secs is much better... (Isn't 20% of 90 secs only 18 secs? or does it also apply to the additional 30 secs from Artifact Head?)
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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    It also applies to AF head.

    But yeah, you can look up and see my opinions on the subject. +20% is a stupidly short duration increase.
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  8. #68
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    Yeah, I just checked... oh boy 24 secs.

    What would have been good to see would have been a static increase. Ideally an extra 1 min duration to make Haste Samba recast coincide with Saber Dance recast, but I suppose that would be too much to hope for. Once pants come out that are better than the Relic+2, I may be dumping some of my Saber Dance merits.
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  9. #69
    Player Trumpy's Avatar
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    looking back on things i guess i actually havent soloed much with fan dance since maybe 90 or so was the last time, been busy on other jobs and group things where i am another job. but i mostly used it for the mobs that hit me for like 500-700 dmg regularly (AKA no crit).

    seems like that one cockatrice in altepa abby comes to mind. but that was all a learning experience as i was doin it. droppin those hard hits down to less than 20 dmg a hit when he would get thru shadows was a godsend. i didnt have much of a pdt set back then either. he could mute and stone me so those times i had fan dance up could be life savers.

    and since then when i am dnc if i ever end up using my tp more for curing and it gets more difficult to actually mount an offense i start using fan dance and generally makes everything easier (sometimes its less bout how fast i can kill that NM nobody else is waiting on but how stressful it can be for me NOTE: im not one of those solo it for an hour kinda guys btw).

    usually when i try something for the first time i try it with fan dance and usually end up just using haste samba pretty quickly in the end. with the changes now i may just cut it down to 1/5 fan dance or cut it all together. with the ease of things with level 99 and a new whm mule it just isnt worth as much.
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