Suggestion: Make /heal command to Reduce Weakness Time

[Mirage]

lol, just no! You'd have EVERYONE wanting Arise alone, there must be a weakness time for it, personally I preferred what was suggested before:

Raise 1 - 5 minutes
Raise 2 - 4 Minutes
Raise 3 - 3 Minutes
Arise - 2 minutes 30 seconds

This, this, and maybe this as well.

When gaining exp is as fast as it is now, no one really cares how much exp they lose when they get KOed (at least I don't), and therefore it doesn't matter much which raise spell you use. If higher-tier raises reduced weakness, which raise spell you used on which player would become strategically relevant in hard fights, where you would use the best raise on the party member who needed to get back into action the fastest.

[RAIST]

wasn't there a blurb a while back where they were looking into reducing the weakened time to 3 minutes or something? May have been bound to higher level raise/reraise...forget exactily what was mentioned, but remember reading it somewhere.

[Arcon]

wasn't there a blurb a while back where they were looking into reducing the weakened time to 3 minutes or something? May have been bound to higher level raise/reraise...forget exactily what was mentioned, but remember reading it somewhere.

Thinking of Arise? They said it will have a 3min weakness, as opposed to the regular 5min weakness.

[Kaisha]

But if they did that, they'd have to 'balance' it by making a new double-weakened state where you're stuck in weakened state for 10 minutes, have 1hp, and 0 accuracy.

[DangerousCalled]

thank you all for comments

Not happening. If you're weakened, you're supposed to be /healing. Zombieing is not supposed to be a tactic, hence double weakness.

not really , most of my time if I got weakness status I don't rest unless my MP below 40 MP as mage (even as mage I just use refresh or any method to recover my mp w/o healing)

and about Zombieng tactic , I aggre about what Arcon said:

This has absolutely zero to do with the ability to zombie-fight mobs. Even when you're not trying to fight weakened, are you really /healing? Very few jobs have any need at all to rest these days.

at last Zombieng tactic need to die every min or less , resting for 3 min I think this out plan of zombieng & in 3 min the Mob got over half HP return (thats if not full also).

But if they did that, they'd have to 'balance' it by making a new double-weakened state where you're stuck in weakened state for 10 minutes, have 1hp, and 0 accuracy.

about weakened 10 min , this 1 happen once u re zone Dynims ( old version )
but idk is this still happning

[Randwolf]

about weakened 10 min , this 1 happen once u re zone Dynims ( old version )
but idk is this still happning

No it isn't. The only way to trigger the 10 minute weakness was to exit the zone and re-enter. Now there is no re-entry.

[Elgorian]

MMO's are about player involvement, taking a player out of the action for 5min isn't good for gameplay. FFXI needs to follow other MMO's and introduce a tiered stacking weakness state.

First time killed = -25% to HP / MP and -25% to all stats, lasts 3min.
Second time killed = -50% HP / MP -50% to all stats, lasts 3min.
Third time killed = -75% HP / MP -75% to all stats, lasts 3min.
Fourth time killed = -90% HP / MP -90% to all stats, lasts 3min. Last stage of weakness

Honestly, I've only really seen that in FFXIV. Most MMO's have a 10 minute weakness if you straight up rez in a "retreating" way. In WoW it's 10 min sickness if you don't run back to your body. LOTRO gives some penalties each time I guess. But I'd rather not have a system from XIV implemented in XI. We all know how that game is going <_< until 2.0 at least where it might be worthwhile we'll see.

Anyway, I'd love to see something like OP implemented, I do still /heal when weakened just out of habit from how things used to be. Faster I'm unweakened the faster I'll be....useful.

[saevel]

Honestly, I've only really seen that in FFXIV. Most MMO's have a 10 minute weakness if you straight up rez in a "retreating" way. In WoW it's 10 min sickness if you don't run back to your body. LOTRO gives some penalties each time I guess. But I'd rather not have a system from XIV implemented in XI. We all know how that game is going <_< until 2.0 at least where it might be worthwhile we'll see.

Anyway, I'd love to see something like OP implemented, I do still /heal when weakened just out of habit from how things used to be. Faster I'm unweakened the faster I'll be....useful.

That's not a system from FFXIV. It's what most other MMO's use, a stacking weakness system upon returned from incapacitation. It's done to penalize the player for becoming incapacitated while not forcing the player to go watch TV.

[Lokithor]

Great suggestion. Make /heal recover from weakened twice as fast as if not /heal. That would be 2.5 mins for normal raise and 1.5 mins if you were raised with arise. Or pick some other rate but faster is good.

[DangerousCalled]

up up

I hope dev team read about it & give me an answer