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    meh hate u so much right now <.< idk why but i never thought about pdt daggers.. tho it could be a really sweet thing.. the trials dont look that bad either..
    meh i need to stop collect daggers ~.~

    maybe its just me but i really dont see dancer eva to be that good ._. if i dont take any eva atmas, i cant just tank things in full haste like i do it on thf >: for most stuff i need to bring my eva gear.. or at least dual eva daggers to be ~ok
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    THF naturally has 20 higher Evasion skill then DNC does (THF 361 vs DNC 341). It's a huge difference. They can hit the evasion cap with a lot less gear.

    @Rieul I don't understand why you would choose to use Drain Samba or God forbid, Aspir Samba over Haste Samba, yes, Drain Samba has it's utility but if I'm in a party with other people, nobody wants Drain Samba. The only reason I use Drain Samba is either by accident or when I'm killing really weak stuff so I don't waste my TP on Waltzing myself and save TP for WSs. Or if Saber Dance is up and I don't want to click it off to Waltz myself.

    In no way is Haste Samba merits a waste. Step Accuracy is. If you miss Steps, add more ACC to your macro. It's as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterking View Post
    THF naturally has 20 higher Evasion skill then DNC does (THF 361 vs DNC 341). It's a huge difference. They can hit the evasion cap with a lot less gear.…
    ((not counting CP, I presume?))

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesterking View Post
    @Rieul I don't understand why you would choose to use Drain Samba or God forbid, Aspir Samba over Haste Samba, yes, Drain Samba has it's utility but if I'm in a party with other people, nobody wants Drain Samba. The only reason I use Drain Samba is either by accident or when I'm killing really weak stuff so I don't waste my TP on Waltzing myself and save TP for WSs. Or if Saber Dance is up and I don't want to click it off to Waltz myself.

    In no way is Haste Samba merits a waste. Step Accuracy is. If you miss Steps, add more ACC to your macro. It's as simple as that.
    As DNC/WHM, I can cast haste on myself and still use Drain Samba, if I run low on MP, (gogo ethereal) I can use Aspir Samba (mob permitting of course)
    No, I don't think Step Acc is the end-all-be-all for DNC merits. However what i don't need in ACC I make up for with more ATK, DEX, STR or haste% even.
    If you don't like it, noone said you had to do it my way. I am NOT trying to tell ANYONE how to play.
    I was explaining my reasoning, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rieul View Post
    As DNC/WHM, I can cast haste on myself and still use Drain Samba, if I run low on MP, (gogo ethereal) I can use Aspir Samba (mob permitting of course)
    No, I don't think Step Acc is the end-all-be-all for DNC merits. However what i don't need in ACC I make up for with more ATK, DEX, STR or haste% even.
    If you don't like it, noone said you had to do it my way. I am NOT trying to tell ANYONE how to play.
    I was explaining my reasoning, nothing more.
    Fair enough.
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    mh tbh i was thinking about dropping my haste samba merits for step accuracy lately ~.~
    i use step acc hands/feet/earring + acc gear on steps already but theres still those moments where presto > step > fail > next step > fail > rage -.-

    almost never use haste samba tho ._. the only times when i'm on dnc i'm solo and either fan dance and tanking or soloing some easy mobs and sabre dance + 50/50 drain or haste
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    Quote Originally Posted by headstrong View Post
    mh tbh i was thinking about dropping my haste samba merits for step accuracy lately ~.~
    i use step acc hands/feet/earring + acc gear on steps already but theres still those moments where presto > step > fail > next step > fail > rage -.-
    There are ways to remedy this without getting Step Accuracy Merits. Such as food, more accuracy gear, Dagger merits, and if it comes down to it, Quickstep is the most accurate step, so drop a quickstep or two on it if you really need to land the steps. You'd be hurting yourself by dropping Haste Samba merits.
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    The King of Fools.
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    guess i will need to start cooking some pizza again.. love em on thf anyways
    actually i dont think i could ever bring me to drop my haste samba merits anyways..
    meh i just really hate missing steps ><
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    Double evasion kilas and prioritize haste/dw on gear, followed by ago/Eva/subtle blow. Saber dance and let the whm heal me, or drop sd every 3 minutes to top myself off. If overall damage mitigation were more important than enmity generation, plds would not be in nearly as awful a state as they are; doing things like using scouters over a haste belt or empress hairpin over charis is questionable in my mind.

    Maybe if you're fighting a gnat, I guess.
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    Don't forget on top of the 20 skill thief get, they also get Evasion Bonuses IV & V, adding another 35 Raw evasion to the mix on top of what the skill adds.
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