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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    Not to be an ass, but most of what you listed is opinion, and everything else SE have already responded to.
    Lol opinion. Mythic acquisition is unbalanced as hell. Period.

    For example, Mythics aren't as powerful in the traditional sense, but they generally have lower delays, and other bonuses, such as the Swords Convert bonus and the Yagrush's Divine Veil bonus. As for the length of time taken to upgrade - it's already been announced that Einherjar will be revamped - as will Salvage and Alexandrite drop rates will be upped.
    Upping Alexandrites isn't a solution at all. Do you know what else is required to take on a Mythic? They'd need to throw the 'King' requirement out the window or throw them in a (NOT INFLATED FOR THE SAKE OF IT) BCNM that also counts as the kill, or make the deaths of them in Besieged count. They're not hard, but they aren't always up or slaughtered in Besieged and people have to wait days for them to respawn.

    Why should Iron Giants be staggerable during regular attacks? How is it "unbalanced", why can't that just be "different"? Or as I like to call it - the smouldering remnants of a skill requirement (let me guess: "that's not skill, it's just an inconvenience" - same could be said about everything in the game.)
    Attacks that count as TP moves makes staggering unnecessarily hard. Period. I get that the system used behind the monsters in this game is a bit weird (and sometimes creative) but it takes no skill to stagger an iron giant, just hope and pray it doesn't attack when your spell or WS goes off.

    As for the rest of your post.. I sum it all up as 'opinion' not necessarily globally accepted unbalance.
    She has a lot of facts, not opinion, but based on some of your posts, I can see why you'd consider it opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Lol opinion. Mythic acquisition is unbalanced as hell. Period.



    Upping Alexandrites isn't a solution at all. Do you know what else is required to take on a Mythic? They'd need to throw the 'King' requirement out the window or throw them in a (NOT INFLATED FOR THE SAKE OF IT) BCNM that also counts as the kill, or make the deaths of them in Besieged count. They're not hard, but they aren't always up or slaughtered in Besieged and people have to wait days for them to respawn.



    Attacks that count as TP moves makes staggering unnecessarily hard. Period. I get that the system used behind the monsters in this game is a bit weird (and sometimes creative) but it takes no skill to stagger an iron giant, just hope and pray it doesn't attack when your spell or WS goes off.



    She has a lot of facts, not opinion, but based on some of your posts, I can see why you'd consider it opinions.

    Camping the kings wasn't hard casually check it once a day and you'll get it eventually. You simply don't deserve one. The king kills/chariot kills/odin kill is by far the easiest of the requirements and if someone is hung up about this I'm sorry to break it to you, but you getting a mythic isn't going to happen.

    Also a neat trick is that a very large percent of the time when a particular beast-man army is preparing to attack, the leader is forced to spawn. He disappears when they are advancing and returns later even if he was killed in the besieged 1-2 hours later. I killed a couple of mine with my LS during the advancing period.

    Staggering giants is quite easy if you have a player kite them towards a player ready to WS enroute, simply attack after the animation of the swing ends. If the giant doesn't TP or double attack you will proc. However the business of the monster immediately casting a spell or TPing after an attack ruining a proc isn't specific to iron giants, all monsters do this. This sounds like you are just terrible at procing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urteil View Post
    However the business of the monster immediately casting a spell or TPing after an attack ruining a proc isn't specific to iron giants, all monsters do this
    To my knowledge not all monsters regular attacks are considered TP moves.

    This sounds like you are just terrible at procing.
    Given my experience with you on Phoenix, you're the last person I want to hear from about being terrible at something. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edyth View Post
    • The time investment ratio between mythic weapons and empyrean/relic weapons is unbalanced. For example, mythics require nearly 1 solid year of Einherjar to acquire, due to time restrictions and stringent reward restrictions.
    • There is stat imbalance between mythic weapons and relic/empyrean weapons. The general concensus is that mythic weapons are "not worth it" compared to their far superior, far easier and faster to obtain relic and empyrean counterparts, with only a few exceptions.
    • The amount of blue magic points available needs to be increased to accomodate for Voidwatch weaknesses. Currentlty, Blue Mages are uniquely disabled in Voidwatch for several minutes due to frequently needing to reset spells.
    • Steal and Despoil's recast is too high, especially considering their accuracy and the necessity of Stealing in THF AF quests and testimony acquisition. The recast should be shortened after an unsuccessful steal. This is unbalanced because in farming other testimonies, you get more than one chance per 5 minutes.
    • Modus Veritas does nothing (rounded to the most accurate generalization). This is unbalanced because there is a merit category available for this ability that does nothing.
    First off with mythics the theory was to have a long involved quest line but ultimately be cheaper to make in the end, however the total required alexandrite was not only over 50% more then any relic but also dropped in lesser quantities. average prices of alex now forces mythic prices to be nearly 2-3x that of a relic now.

    as far as stat imbalance im not too sure where you get that from ryunohige is suposedly one of the better if not best weapons in the game along with mythic gkt being now the best GKT for sam (only due to shoha)

    eh they don't exactly have to re adjust set points if they just plain lower the amount of spells that proc.

    cant agree with ya more on steal/despoil/aurasteal with the added lack of actual things to steal from newer content i'd rather see these abilities gutted for abilities that actually do something anything, more hate steal (non shared timmer) new type of damage or stance anything that ACTUALLY improves thf, not thier twisted idea of balance either.

    Unless your refering to the whole fact that modus can miss then it does have a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    To my knowledge not all monsters regular attacks are considered TP moves.



    Given my experience with you on Phoenix, you're the last person I want to hear from about being terrible at something. >.>
    1) Lol. What, who said they were.

    2) I try my best to not deal with terrible people. Our interactions have been slim to none making you forgettable at best.

    3) Based on your not max level and the fact your profile everywhere seems to be hidden you're basically a high level sock puppet spewing repugnant crying garbage.

    It would be a good idea to stop posting.
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    I only did a quick scan, but I didn't see the two most obvious balance issues.

    1. Spirits delay between spells is ridiculous. (Still about 20 seconds per spell in best conditions). This coupled with random spell selection means you usually get 1 good spell per minute. At least the perpetuation cost is corrected now.

    2. Cost vs efficiency of Wards. Lots of wards are just MP sinks without any benefits. One of the classics are Inferno Howl, that is HALF as strong as the COR version, lasts ONE TENTH of the time, and costs closer to 80 MP. You just end up saying "screw these wards, I'll pretend they do not exist".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Lol opinion. Mythic acquisition is unbalanced as hell. Period.
    I was referring to the power of Mythics vs. other weapons - not acquiring them. Reading your post, you seem to think that one of the hardest things (one of the most unbalanced?) is killing the 3 Kings. If you think 'waiting days' for one to pop is troublesome, I have to question whether you played this game pre-abyssea. You should be used to such 'waits'

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    She has a lot of facts, not opinion, but based on some of your posts, I can see why you'd consider it opinions.
    I was talking about the 'facts' being interpreted as unbalanced, not the details in the post.

    Please read my posts properly if you absolutely must reply to them. I get you disagree with many of my opinions - but it doesn't make them any less valid, as my disagreement with the OP doesn't make their concerns (to them and those who agree with them) any less valid.


    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    unnecessarily hard.
    then later...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    it takes no skill to stagger an iron giant
    You use skill to make something that's 'hard' become easier and faster.

    You're like a parody of yourself. Keep it up.
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    Last edited by Dazusu; 04-13-2012 at 12:01 PM.