kikoku and its aftermath

[Sayomi]

Honestly alot of AM need to be revamped for relics, some are pretty obsolete, like Gungnirs for instance was ALWAYS obsolete scythes was recently kinda poopoo because everything has haste now, way back when haste gear was like trying to spot jesus in public altho its good in a way to haul on more attack in an AM macro but w.e

[Neisan_Quetz]

Because telling someone they're wrong means you're angry on a internet forum

[Darwena]

I don't know why ppl ask for a better WS. They already said: "I play this game for fun and not to be better" so stop complaining about it and do the less efficient one if you happy with it. If you want more DMG on the other hand, stop crying the gimp playstyle is awfull and start doing the more efficient way to play a job.

It's like saying "hey Devs, I want blade: Retsu more effective cause that WS is the one I like to use!" Somone answer: "hmmm do Blade: Shun instead you will do more DMG" and you will answer: "shut up n..b, I play the game for fun and I want Blade: Retsu be more powerfull."

Soon ppl will ask for SAM be best archer in this game... oh wait... they already did it...

[Bulrogg]

Perhaps I have an askewed form of thought... but if the time it takes to complete a Relic surpasses the time it takes to complete/acquire other weapons of the same class, one would think the WS and AF would be far more superior.

#6dos

[Return1]

Blade: Shun now gives you a legit reason to make Kikoku as your primary NIN weapon. For VW it gives you a superior WS, more ATK, and a more steady OTD. Also better on Dynamis as well. The only times Kannagi shines is if you got RR in abyssea.

Most relic AM suck as well. At least now you don't have to gimp yourself to get an effect right?

That and Kikoku can more easily by boosted to 95+.

Also, why do people ask you to make Relics multihit instead of just having the same fTP as a multihit while being single hit? Being single hit is actually a pretty big boost to these WSes because you get a massive ACC bonus and lets you stack more ATK/STR/WSC

[Darwena]

Blade: Shun now gives you a legit reason to make Kikoku as your primary NIN weapon. For VW it gives you a superior WS, more ATK, and a more steady OTD. Also better on Dynamis as well. The only times Kannagi shines is if you got RR in abyssea.

Most relic AM suck as well. At least now you don't have to gimp yourself to get an effect right?

That and Kikoku can more easily by boosted to 95+.

Also, why do people ask you to make Relics multihit instead of just having the same fTP as a multihit while being single hit? Being single hit is actually a pretty big boost to these WSes because you get a massive ACC bonus and lets you stack more ATK/STR/WSC

Cause some ppl want more stuff for Role Playing and asking devs for useless BS instead of having real improvement...

[vixin]

maybe we can clear up this post w/o personal attacks i made it for people who "have" or wanting to make kikoku, submit what they want to see improved on the ws /aftermath. thank you

[Darwena]

I didn't make any personal attack, some ppl mean lot of player, nothing personal. If you think it's personal, maybe you take those forum too seriously. Also, I should say some ppl here who think its personal attack are the one who make those personal attack by naming player and then insult them.

Also, I feel concerned by this post since I'm working on Kikoku (slowly). I don't think the Kikoku aftermath need improvement unless ALL relic get one. Kikoku have 3x DMG proc in w/o any Aftermath, have the highest DMG + attack mods and it's one of the fastest Katana. So with all that, I don't know why we SE should modify the Aftermath. if it's the DMG that bother ppl here, Blade: Shun FTW... or a better WS setup.

[vixin]

hmmm well as i said i made this post for kikoku "blade: metus and its aftermath" you think the aftermath is fine ok thats yoru opinion but you said if it does get improved other relic ws would need to.

reminder this is for kikoku not "other relic ws" can we focus on that ws and its aftermath alone , thank you.
on another note se posted something about rehauling all ws' maybe mythic and relic s would be included in that and perhaps revised aftermaths since most of relic aftermaths are obsolite
edit: the x3 dmg will not work on ws btw " i read your post as if you inclined it did"

[Darwena]

Dmg x3 don't aply on WS? I didn't know that point. If it don't apply on WS, then Relic owner should complain about that point before Aftermath or WS itself.