kikoku and its aftermath

[wish12oz]

I've been so busy not paying attention I didn't even notice this thread got posted in.

ITT: We hit both fear of math and 'you don't know if you don't have X' all in one post!

Shush you noob, you cant know how something works if you dont have it to use in game and test while looking at your chatlog on your PS2!

[Ophannus]

Kikoku's is better than Gungnir's at least since at least Kikoku's is active and Gungnir's is passive(requires the DRG to get hit, which is almost never and the stun never procs and the spikes do like 16 damage).

[Neisan_Quetz]

Nin is at what 42 subtle blow before Auspice/Myoshu at 99? Assuming Koga+2 hands unless I missed something, 37 SB without. Assumed Rajas was on for TP at least.

[Sayomi]

Honestly alot of AM need to be revamped for relics, some are pretty obsolete, like Gungnirs for instance was ALWAYS obsolete scythes was recently kinda poopoo because everything has haste now, way back when haste gear was like trying to spot jesus in public altho its good in a way to haul on more attack in an AM macro but w.e

[Savlyn]

"If you're good you're a jerk with no friends" ideal starting being kicked around, but it needs to stop.

The reason people think like this is because you actually ARE a jerk. Why are you so angry all the time? Misinformation, as you call it, it not enough to make someone this angry. So what is it really?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Because telling someone they're wrong means you're angry on a internet forum

[wish12oz]

The reason people think like this is because you actually ARE a jerk. Why are you so angry all the time? Misinformation, as you call it, it not enough to make someone this angry. So what is it really?

I've only been angry once when viewing and responding to these forums that I can recall. I feel no emotion most of the time when I respond to people here to correct them, I view it as just a matter of course while trying to spread correct information, so the problem is not on my end. Like when responding to this post, I'm not angry at all, I just think you're a ...not smart person. But seriously, if I'm a jerk because I speak bluntly so people don't misunderstand what I'm saying, or because I tell people the truth without trying to sugarcoat it, then thats also fine with me. I don't really care what random people on an internet forum I will never meet IRL think of me. So if you want to think of me as a red faced angry guy always screaming at everyone for no reason, go right ahead, but I'm gonna tell you that you're wrong every time you say it and I see it.

[Darwena]

I don't know why ppl ask for a better WS. They already said: "I play this game for fun and not to be better" so stop complaining about it and do the less efficient one if you happy with it. If you want more DMG on the other hand, stop crying the gimp playstyle is awfull and start doing the more efficient way to play a job.

It's like saying "hey Devs, I want blade: Retsu more effective cause that WS is the one I like to use!" Somone answer: "hmmm do Blade: Shun instead you will do more DMG" and you will answer: "shut up n..b, I play the game for fun and I want Blade: Retsu be more powerfull."

Soon ppl will ask for SAM be best archer in this game... oh wait... they already did it...

[Bulrogg]

Perhaps I have an askewed form of thought... but if the time it takes to complete a Relic surpasses the time it takes to complete/acquire other weapons of the same class, one would think the WS and AF would be far more superior.

#6dos

[Return1]

Blade: Shun now gives you a legit reason to make Kikoku as your primary NIN weapon. For VW it gives you a superior WS, more ATK, and a more steady OTD. Also better on Dynamis as well. The only times Kannagi shines is if you got RR in abyssea.

Most relic AM suck as well. At least now you don't have to gimp yourself to get an effect right?

That and Kikoku can more easily by boosted to 95+.

Also, why do people ask you to make Relics multihit instead of just having the same fTP as a multihit while being single hit? Being single hit is actually a pretty big boost to these WSes because you get a massive ACC bonus and lets you stack more ATK/STR/WSC