kikoku and its aftermath

[Dragoy]

wish12oz,

Point being: I do not play this game to compete with other players, nor to get all the 'best items' per se.
I play this game for fun. If you call that gimp, go ahead, it's your opinion. :]

I do all of that at the same time. To bad you haven't figured out how to do this yet.

Getting gear and having fun and being good at the game are all possible at the same time, I dunno when this whole mentality of "If you're good you're a jerk with no friends" ideal starting being kicked around, but it needs to stop.

Yeah, I didn't put that out very well, and I would say it obviously depends a lot of how one would define good. Of course it is possible to be good and have fun! Perhaps a better example would be that I don't find the sources for the new 'best' items in the game fun, and choose not to do them. I guess it does make me a bad player at least in some sense.

I'm not even saying that I'm a good player; I never did!

I still think the weapon skills, as well as all the other quest ones should be far better than the level 50-60 weapon skills for example. To me, that makes sense. If it's nonsense to you, well, I guess you'll just have to live with it.

While this is the way it should be, it is not like that because SE fails at common sense and updating their game accordingly and making needed/useful improvements. It's better to just ignore their shortcomings on the small stuff, so the big annoyances can be fixed.

I do agree, but even so, I also think people should suggest whatever they want. I don't think it will have a negative impact over more wanted things. In fact, it's not very motivating to not see people suggest changes, I would think. Even if it's something they absolutely would not want to do, it can still give them ideas and blah blah.

In any case, if the development team does not get more love some time soon, the future does not look too good whatever they happen to read, methinks... Things like this would likely take at least a year for them to actually start working upon them anyway, and shouldn't affect higher priority issues.


By the by, I was not talking about anyone in particular up there, if that is what it seemed like. :S

[wish12oz]

I do agree, but even so, I also think people should suggest whatever they want. I don't think it will have a negative impact over more wanted things. In fact, it's not very motivating to not see people suggest changes, I would think. Even if it's something they absolutely would not want to do, it can still give them ideas and blah blah.

In any case, if the development team does not get more love some time soon, the future does not look too good whatever they happen to read, methinks... Things like this would likely take at least a year for them to actually start working upon them anyway, and shouldn't affect higher priority issues.

I use to think like that too, and now we have cheese sandwiches, moogle costumes, bad updates to merit abilities, bad updates to most relics, etc. Instead of more fun/good/rewarding content to actually play and useful updates to things like relics and merits. Just imagine how much better relics of been if SE would of actually focused on fixing all of them to make them all useful instead of trying to implement trash content and giving them blanket updates like relic WS damage +40%. And soon we'll be blessed with playing as monster, for no useful rewards whatsoever, and while I'm sure it will be fun for 3 days, it's just some trash that will end up being as vacant as the FFXI pokemon battles, chocobo racing, chocobo raising, etc after 2 weeks.

[vixin]

I use to think like that too, and now we have cheese sandwiches, moogle costumes, bad updates to merit abilities, bad updates to most relics, etc. Instead of more fun/good/rewarding content to actually play and useful updates to things like relics and merits. Just imagine how much better relics of been if SE would of actually focused on fixing all of them to make them all useful instead of trying to implement trash content and giving them blanket updates like relic WS damage +40%. And soon we'll be blessed with playing as monster, for no useful rewards whatsoever, and while I'm sure it will be fun for 3 days, it's just some trash that will end up being as vacant as the FFXI pokemon battles, chocobo racing, chocobo raising, etc after 2 weeks.

going to quit again? f so make another post about how your ending your account and post a pic so it shows your serious on another note "U Mad Bro?"

[Dragoy]

I use to think like that too, and now we have cheese sandwiches, moogle costumes, bad updates to merit abilities, bad updates to most relics, etc. Instead of more fun/good/rewarding content to actually play and useful updates to things like relics and merits. Just imagine how much better relics of been if SE would of actually focused on fixing all of them to make them all useful instead of trying to implement trash content and giving them blanket updates like relic WS damage +40%. And soon we'll be blessed with playing as monster, for no useful rewards whatsoever, and while I'm sure it will be fun for 3 days, it's just some trash that will end up being as vacant as the FFXI pokemon battles, chocobo racing, chocobo raising, etc after 2 weeks.

Yeah, I do agree on that a lot, in a way. I just don't think the reason to it is that people suggested other things; more like they just didn't want to fix the real issues (and I guess they still don't, seeing they create stuff like the trials of glow for the weapons in question haha).

Oh well. Time will tell, what will become of it all, relics and the like.
Thinking it might even happen sooner than later.

[Savlyn]

"If you're good you're a jerk with no friends" ideal starting being kicked around, but it needs to stop.

The reason people think like this is because you actually ARE a jerk. Why are you so angry all the time? Misinformation, as you call it, it not enough to make someone this angry. So what is it really?

[wish12oz]

The reason people think like this is because you actually ARE a jerk. Why are you so angry all the time? Misinformation, as you call it, it not enough to make someone this angry. So what is it really?

I've only been angry once when viewing and responding to these forums that I can recall. I feel no emotion most of the time when I respond to people here to correct them, I view it as just a matter of course while trying to spread correct information, so the problem is not on my end. Like when responding to this post, I'm not angry at all, I just think you're a ...not smart person. But seriously, if I'm a jerk because I speak bluntly so people don't misunderstand what I'm saying, or because I tell people the truth without trying to sugarcoat it, then thats also fine with me. I don't really care what random people on an internet forum I will never meet IRL think of me. So if you want to think of me as a red faced angry guy always screaming at everyone for no reason, go right ahead, but I'm gonna tell you that you're wrong every time you say it and I see it.

[Neisan_Quetz]

ITT: We hit both fear of math and 'you don't know if you don't have X' all in one post!

[wish12oz]

I've been so busy not paying attention I didn't even notice this thread got posted in.

ITT: We hit both fear of math and 'you don't know if you don't have X' all in one post!

Shush you noob, you cant know how something works if you dont have it to use in game and test while looking at your chatlog on your PS2!

[Ophannus]

Kikoku's is better than Gungnir's at least since at least Kikoku's is active and Gungnir's is passive(requires the DRG to get hit, which is almost never and the stun never procs and the spikes do like 16 damage).

[Neisan_Quetz]

Nin is at what 42 subtle blow before Auspice/Myoshu at 99? Assuming Koga+2 hands unless I missed something, 37 SB without. Assumed Rajas was on for TP at least.