NIN combinations

[Arcon]

Does NIN/PLD actually offer anything worthwhile that you can't get with NIN/WHM now? Slightly higher stats and HP, I suppose.

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[Bulrogg]

Does NIN/PLD actually offer anything worthwhile that you can't get with NIN/WHM now? Slightly higher stats and HP, I suppose.

Shield bash(Shield Mastery), Sentinel, Cover and can also fill-in the same red !! as /war; try doing that /whm. Seriously though, it's worthwhile if they choose to use it as such. Ask them why they are /pld instead of /whm.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Does NIN/PLD actually offer anything worthwhile that you can't get with NIN/WHM now? Slightly higher stats and HP, I suppose.

Shield bash(Shield Mastery), Sentinel, Cover and can also fill-in the same red !! as /war; try doing that /whm. Seriously though, it's worthwhile if they choose to use it as such. Ask them why they are /pld instead of /whm.

/head asplode

[Darwena]

NIN/WAR is the best support job for NIN I said it on 90% of my post here and I don't think I need to talk about /WAR again as best support job for NIN. Now you talk about some situational event. /PLD have nothing to bring and WTF shield bash???? You will sacrifice more DMG for a... shield bash???? What you gonna bring next time? NIN/BRD so you can self Madrigal? Dunno what you smoke, but you should slow down on it before you start about NIN/SMN...

[Kincard]

I'm all for playing solo and experimenting with shit, but after the release of /DNC, there was pretty much no reason to sub anything else when you're soloing and level cap raise made it even more pointless because it gives you violent flourish now. The only really big irritant for /DNC is paralyze, and if you're going to be soloing anything challenging I hope you're carrying a few medicines to combat that.

Seriously, shield bash? Wat.

Also, one of the biggest advantages offered by /RDM or /WHM (Haste) can now be obtained by any sub by wearing Oynos Knife for a few turns. Whoop de do.

[MojoJojo]

The only time i was every /anything-other-than-war was when i was soloing stuff and went /dnc. Whatever tiny benefits you might get from some oddball combo is dwarfed by the sheer kickassery that is nin/war.

/dnc is nice for staying alive when you're all alone, but finding one soul/mule to join you on your adventure(s) shouldn't be too hard.

[Bulrogg]

Who said anything about fulling timing a shield? Never heard of a macro? No one seemed to get up in arms about it when it was previously suggested.

Perhaps you miss-read the OP. It asked what subs made the job more unique for each person, not cookie-cutter for everyone. We all know what the best job for cookie-cutter is.

Yes, /war is best (I knew it wouldn't be long before we're back to that) and /dnc is great for solo. But people still choose to utilize other support job options. As long as they know why they are subbing it, it is worthwhile to them. We've offered our input, but as we are not clairvoyants and you are the ones asking... why don't you track them down online and ask them why they are subbing it?

In regards to the mage support jobs, I believe people were discussing what subs WHMs should be using. The thread has gotten off track here and there. In regards to NIN I have seen /rdm only a handful of time and /whm even less.

[Kincard]

Who said anything about fulling timing a shield? Never heard of a macro?

yeah man its so awesome that i get to stun once every 5 minutes where I need to waste a space carrying around a shield and clear all my tp as i do it instead of getting to do it once every 45 seconds that also gives tp back i am such a unique snowflake <3

Next you're going to tell me casting slow is the reason you would sub RDM. There's a really big difference between trying to find a really niche use for a unique build and just doing something dumb/totally pointless.

[Bulrogg]

Thanks for jumping in, to catch you up--

We were talking about how /pld is similar to /drk and offers a more defensive combination in certain situations, especially forStun resistant mobs. But in the interest of asinine post, some asked what other uses /pld had that /whm couldn't provide. Then hilarity ensued.

No /pld isn't as viable as it was in the previous years. And we all know the real reason to /rdm is for convert.

In short: the best event sub is /war and the most commonly used solo sub is /dnc. Other than that, people are exploring their own support job combinations to see what uses they have.

[Kincard]

Yeah...we're talking about unique combinations that offer something other subs don't give, which PLD doesn't give. At all. All the stuff it gives is redundant with other subs and pretty much always does it inferiorly. Also, PLD sub was never useful.

Ninjas have a defense line for stun-resistant mobs, it's called Utsusemi. If you're seriously up against one of those few monsters that are both stun-resistant and can -ga you half to death your MDT set and waltz spam should be more than enough to keep you alive, especially if you augmented Anwig/Desultor with DNC-related abilities (MDT/WaltzRecast PDT/WaltzTPCost respectively, that way they serve double duties, because only like 1 person in the universe has Suijin Kabuto).