NIN combinations

[Neisan_Quetz]

/Thf is more efficient in old content/salvage unless you brought a thf main.

Why do you keep posting on stuff that you do not care about? Just to try and win an argument? that's pretty bad tbh. Well I suppose it would be difficult if you don't have any of the nefer/heka bodies (light damage magian staff covers either), NQ isn't that expensive, albeit possibly rare on AH.

I'm sorry but you're going to have to list areas sneak/invis even matter for, because I have seen it matter for all of nothing in most VW runs I have done, and anything around the pop becomes tp fodder.

[Arcon]

/Thf is more efficient in old content/salvage unless you brought a thf main.

Exactly.

Why do you keep posting on stuff that you do not care about? Just to try and win an argument? that's pretty bad tbh. Well I suppose it would be difficult if you don't have any of the nefer/heka bodies (light damage magian staff covers either), NQ isn't that expensive, albeit possibly rare on AH.

I never said I didn't care about the argument. I said I don't care if you can cap it without /SCH or /RDM, because either way it will require you to carry more gear around, which is basically his entire argument for /BLM.

I'm sorry but you're going to have to list areas sneak/invis even matter for, because I have seen it matter for all of nothing in most VW runs I have done, and anything around the pop becomes tp fodder.

You better be sorry, because it seems you just want me to list these things because your imagination is severely limited. This is what I, personally, had to use it for in the last few weeks: getting G3 done for people, getting the rank 4-1 mission done, hunting statues in Dynamis, getting to staging points, getting to trial areas and hunt for Seasoning Stones. Not that I had to list any of it, because that's not the point. The point is that there are WHM buffs you can AoE for some situations, and people will find those situations, whether you care about them or not.

In case that's not enough for you, there's also AoE Erase, Regen and all -na spells, as well as Protect/Shell for when you can't or don't want to go within an enemy's AoE range.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I am pretty sure it was about subs for VW not other events. as already stated MP is not an issue in VW or abyssea, so without needing extra dispels a la carabosse /rdm is pretty redundant. /sch is also not really needed and matters little in either area, as do invis/sneak for getting around in VW.

The only extra piece you would have to carry around is... Possibly cure clogs, or the cap+2.

[Bulrogg]

OP:

Just want to know what most people like subing with their nin and some combinations, job traits, and abilities that make their job more personal unique. feel free to post anything and no this isn't a troll I'm just curious what people come up with in their own free time.

Nothing about events here. "what most people like subing...that make their job more personal unique"

The argument starts with

WAR

It's cookie cutter because it's the best. If you sub anything else you're doing it wrong.

Then other jobs and their subs got drug into it just to continue the arguing.

and now we are here...

Methinks someone has lost sight of what a "game" is

I normally hate the "it's my 12.95" argument, because people use it to justify every bad behavior of theirs, but in this case it works, because this really is a matter of opinion. No one is saying you're wrong. We're just disagreeing with you. Everyone knows /WAR is NIN's best DD choice, but not all people go that route. And if you insist that that's "wrong", then you just don't get it.

and I couldn't agree more.

[wish12oz]

WHM can cap cast and recast time for every spell without /rdm, and you should be carrying around that set regardless of what you're doing.

Suck less on strategy or gil and AOE procs on -na spells from /sch won't be useful. Good WHMs will have yagrush, and there's no time when 1 WHM should be casting -na spells on more than 2 people, which makes the time people are debuffed the same with /sch and without. The good WHM buffs are all AOE already, shellra, barfira, etc.

Bring a THF to salvage (~.~; ) seriously. And if you can't keep up the healing in salvage as a WHM/BLM at 99 I feel sorry for you. I've gone in WAR/SAM, WHM/BLM mule and THF mule and full timed hasso, used berserk every time it was up, and tanked everything on WAR, generally multiple mobs at a time too, cause running between stuff and reengaging is annoying, better to just aggro 4-5 mobs at a time, and I never quit fighting stuff or waited for MP or rested in salvage ever. If I can do that, with my gimp WHM mule, you should be fine with real people playing your WHM. But then I have noticed my standard for being gimp is different from most peoples, my WHM mule is actually better than 99% of real WHMs. Also: SCH and RDM are better in salvage than WHM, so lol, this argument isn't even good, if anything is gimping your alexandrite returns, its your bad job combination of jobs for the event and lack of gear for the WHM.

As for your 'doing missions and stuff' with nubs, I always find it useful to break nubs of thinking people will sneak/invis them. Nothing is worse than that 1 guy who doesnt bring oils/powders and expects mages to do it for him. This is much less of an issue now, but back in my day, when getting to exp camps required you to not be a retard everyone brought this stuff and handled it on their own, and I find that mindset to be the best. But thats probably just the bitter RDM in me from 2004. Which reminds me of a funny story. This one time when I was 61~ back in 2004 going to exp in onzozo, the party leader was one of those melees who refused to bring sneak/invis, needless to say he also didnt get a chocobo at the crag, and while everyone else had already made it to camp, he came strolling into zone 15~ minutes after us, and then expected me to come back to the entrance and sneak/invis him. I promptly warped and disbanded.

Different people find fun in different things. My idea of fun is being awesome. I like to stick random stuff in my bazaar for 99,9999,999 gil just so people check me and say wow at my gear more often. It's the same reason you buy a BMW or Italian sports car IRL, or that brand new truck if you're a country boy.

I think I responded to every point people made against me. If not feel free to point out things I missed or try to argue against me.

[Shadowsong]

What you missed seems to be that the only way to "do it wrong" is to not have fun. Some people like doing it your way, some don't.
I could just as easily say you are doing it wrong by taking a game too seriously. Every post you do is like 90 paragraphs, even when I agree with you I still skip your posts.

[Economizer]

Good WHMs will have yagrush

In case people weren't convinced everything you say is trolling, I present this.

And if you don't know all the reasons why /SCH is uniquely important for White Mage, go read the BGwiki article on Light Arts some more and try to figure it out. I assure you there is something you missed that is blatantly obvious to anyone who knows how to play White Mage correctly; people may prefer another sub, but not even knowing what trade offs they are making does not reflect well on them.

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More on topic, any subjob is the right sub as long as you know why you are subbing it and are exploiting the advantages it brings you, especially for Ninja.

Dance on, NIN/DNC, keep shooting, NIN/RNG, keep throwing, NIN/RNG. Keep playing how you have fun.

[Arcon]

Different people find fun in different things. [..]

This is pretty much my entire argument. I won't even bother responding to the Yagrush thing, as I feel there's no reasoning with you on that level.

BRD > RDM > WHM > SCH in terms of Salvage mules. Not sure what you could even use SCH for, unless it is to conserve MP, which you said there's no need for. I usually go THF+WHM as that's least effort. BRD mule is a pain to control, but it's easily the most efficient if you keep a haste and a refresh cycle up.

[Economizer]

Not sure what you could even use SCH for, unless it is to conserve MP, which you said there's no need for.

I'm thinking it was probably something like Embrava + superior nuking power over WHM and RDM to dump the extra MP and get faster kills + superior healing over RDM.

Depending on the Salvage floor and what you're doing you might as well melee WHM (if you thought /SCH was good for MP efficiency, you should see what Mystic Boon can do in Salvage) if you're gonna bring a WHM though, but really, whatever is fun is the best.

If NIN/THF or NIN/DNC strikes someone's fancy in Salvage, power to them.

[wish12oz]

Poor people, lol. Making gil is easy, it takes longer to do everything other than the alexandrite than to make 600m to buy 30k alex at 20k each, which is over paying by Odins standards.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Light_Arts
This says lights arts increases skill levels to B, gives fast cast and reduces MP cost of spells. You can do more than that if you skill up your magic skills, you can cap cast/recast times with gear, and MP isn't an issue, so.......... what am I missing exactly? nothing? k.