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    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The best loot distribution is free lot for anyone, it's the only way to satisfy anyone, and the only way to keep members. Don't act like I'm a LS free noob that doesn't want to get implied in large scale farming. This crap is not endgame it's a 18-man BCNM. I've done countless of point based system like sky dynamis lamebus etc it just doesn't work and people quit when they get their shit. Best thing I did was Einherjar where the lotting rule basically free lot for everyone, and the LS last like 2 years, 33 odin.


    Nobody would farm hagun with their LS at 75, same problem here. I've done plenty of point system based event and it just doesn't work in the long run. It's not necessarily because people keep everything for them, it's because it's impossible to give everyone what they want, which leads to frustration, and also leads to those that got anything to leave. But hey, keep thinking you are not wasting your time. Do you have a relic 99 ? A mythic 99? An empy 99 ? Meteor ? Arise ? 250 millions ? A full nyzul set ? I bet the answers to those question are no to all, which totally confirms what I'm saying. Doing EVRYTHING in a event which is what you imply just doesn't work. You need a LS for one specific event at best.
    As I've told you before, doing events with a LS does not impede any of the goals you just listed. Once again, you assume all of someone's time is spent doing EVERYTHING with a LS, which is quite far from the truth. There are plenty of people in my shell who have many of the things on your list. All of your examples can either be achieved from endless Dyna farming or side Nyzulling, which are obviously not done in an LS, so I'm not sure what you are trying to prove.

    Regarding your question about Meteor/Arise, we haven't even started farming Prov Watcher yet, but plan to incorporate it very soon. So people are free to buy Meteor from bazaars (but oops, none available yet!). We do Dyna at MOST once a week, and people can farm all they want 26+ remaining days of the month. I also farm Neo-Nyzul on the side, and don't understand why you continually raise that example as it is something a small group does ONCE a week...

    Doing every event freelot for anyone is one of the quickest ways to cause frustration possible. People want predictability and the ability to make progression toward a goal, and point systems allow for that. Why do you think so many people were crying for SE point systems in VW? In your examples, nothing is stopping people from leaving once they get their shit freelot, so I'm not sure why you think THAT scenario is so superior to a LS based environment, where the effort you make in one event carries over into the next.

    Do you honestly think that frustration would be alleviated in an "18-man BCNM" where everyone freelots Meteor and Arise over the people who could actually use it? Do you think the people who lost a freelot E. Body, N. Legs, V. Fork, etc. in Odin in your example were magically free of frustration because they knew they were guaranteed to get it in the future, and they knew the guy who did it would stick around? You also assumed only one person in my shell would lot stuff at a time, which is false. Multiple people who meet the points/mainlot requirements can cast lots, not just one person.

    You call Prov Watcher an 18-man BCNM, but it is essentially no different from any other VW fight except for two drops falling into the group pool. Bahamutv2 and other events were 18-man BCNM's too, and doing that freelot or PUG would have been the quickest path to frustration for anybody who wanted the Helm or Staff. Your arbitrary labeling of an event does not carry any weight, nor do the assumptions you make in every single post.
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    Last edited by Mahoro; 04-10-2012 at 11:28 PM.