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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do
    No items, Paladin only, FINAL DESTINATION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do
    /salute =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubis View Post
    No items, Paladin only, FINAL DESTINATION.
    Fark final destination! must play on Flatland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    As many of you have noticed by spying a few eggs scattered about, our Japanese counterparts were holding an Easter Egg Hunt event via the forum in conjunction with in-game elements.

    I understand that some of you may be disappointed that it was a Japanese-specific event, but please keep in mind that their event was no different from our previous contests which were for the NA region (for example, there was no “Most Interesting Moogle” or “Moogle’s Law” equivalent on the Japan side).

    With that said, we are also planning on utilizing in-game content for future events as well, in addition to what we’ve been doing on the forums thus far! Hopefully that clears things up!
    I think if all the players are supposed to share the same world then we should be sharing the same rewards. What is the difference of having "American Only" "Japanese Only" contests for the game, then getting upset at players when they do shouts for "English Only" "Japanese Only" parties? At least maybe if we are going to be seperated, have simultaneous events for each region? Ones that give the exact same rewards to the exact same amount of players. Does not have to be the same contest but something similar. Just seems doing them seperately and giving different things causes more problems then its worth and gives some people more reasons to want to segregate in the game. Just my opinion though.
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    There's plenty of reason for contests to be localized- especially if prizes are being awarded, because of regional item avialability, they might not be able to offer the same prizes in the same regions at the same time. Thus it's up to each region's community team to come up with these events.

    SE would be really stupid if they thought nobody would notice these things- that is why they'll be doing something else for us down the line. Who knows, maybe they figured NA interest in the forum game they came up with wouldn't be as high as with the JP forum community. After all, it was a forum game and people who didn't visit the forums, whether they be NA or JP, wouldn't have known about it.

    If you wanted to, you could use Player Event Support to have your own easter egg hunt just like the one they had. That's why the eggs say "Moogle"- the GMs were just using the same system they use for the player events through the event support system.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-11-2012 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    This will not go away unless character blinking goes away, because the whole reason the penalty exists is so that you can't abuse blinking to make it hard for people to target you. (a better way of blocking this would be to simply block gear changes, so that people don't unintentionally switch gear and get hit with the penalty or have to make special macros just for ballista)

    Besides, it comes with a simple work around: Build a stronger all-around gear set. instead of minmaxing on a per-action basis, for PvP.

    Besides this, the pvp system only has three main issues:

    -JA/spell/WS balance, mainly at higher levels (new stuff post 75 has not really been considered at all)- it's not terrible, but it could be improved
    -Ease of access. the requirements to participate and the process of signing up and the schedule and such is rather cumbersome and deters more on-the-fence people from participating (people I sek tend to lose interest before they've even gained access to a match if they haven't already done the license quest)
    -Lack of any real reward whatsoever (Gil only changes hands and isn't gained or lost, EXP is pathetic, and no item rewards, not even pvp-specific ones)

    The gameplay itself of ballista is pretty solid and the party-based nature of the game lends to good team tactics and such.


    You can make anything sound unfun by oversimplifying it. Like your idea for example:

    " I dont know about you guy but followin some lil npc around is not really fun"

    Maybe the objective seems... sanitized, to you- but whether it's 'some lil tower' or an NPC or undefined pixelized pieces of poo, the objective can be anything- it simply needs to be a device which drives teamwork- which the rook and petras achieve. You can't be a one man hero in ballista- you need to use teamwork to outscore the opponents. Ballista is portrayed as a sport because the three nations are not in direct conflict with eachother. To have PvP more like WoW or other games would require lore which creates a war or other conflict between the factions/cities/whatever that the players are part of.
    Oh but i disagre. you Can be a one man hero in ballista.
    You can come out on top even if your team loses just by scoring big in medals, and if you played long enough back in the day you know thats all it turned into.

    Who played for the exp/gil reward? nobody...
    Its all about diorama points and medals.

    Maybe my idea needs some polish because it was off the top of my head, but it makes a lot more sense then the soccer game they make you play in ballista... oh wait in soccer at least you have a chance at scoring even if theres people defending the goal.... so it sucks more then soccer and its just as painfull to watch...

    Okay maybe escorting & protecting a npc isnt your cup of tea, i welcome any sugestions from you or anyone that doesnt just want 1 million gil/cruor reward from it every match.
    And who can see 'sport' & 'Lore' as the problem with adding a competitive mission when i have a floating furry butler at home that can bring my power down to lvl 1 at my own command... see what i did there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There's plenty of reason for contests to be localized- especially if prizes are being awarded, because of regional item avialability, they might not be able to offer the same prizes in the same regions at the same time. Thus it's up to each region's community team to come up with these events.

    SE would be really stupid if they thought nobody would notice these things- that is why they'll be doing something else for us down the line. Who knows, maybe they figured NA interest in the forum game they came up with wouldn't be as high as with the JP forum community. After all, it was a forum game and people who didn't visit the forums, whether they be NA or JP, wouldn't have known about it.

    If you wanted to, you could use Player Event Support to have your own easter egg hunt just like the one they had. That's why the eggs say "Moogle"- the GMs were just using the same system they use for the player events through the event support system.
    The game itself isn't what made people upset. It was the the prizes and not being able to obtain that prize. The Euro player base was very upset at the NA forum game and the JPN egg hunt game because they have been excluded from both and their community team hasn't done many if any exclusive events. The JPN game offered more chances at the prize which was something that also made players upset. But still that is the thing, the seperation like this just fuels the seperation that some players have for other players of another region. I'm just saying that to attempt to make things of equal playing ground the events should be similar with the same amount of prizes awarded and the same prize. Creating an in-game event is one thing that can bring joy to the player base if people are willing to participate, this much is true. But with the lack of a special prize such as those that can be awarded by SE themselves, you really think as many people would have wanted to participate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savlyn View Post
    Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

    /sarcasm off.

    Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.
    Bah I thought you meant REAL real PvP. Like get on a plane, and meet up fight club style. Finally getting our hands on those forum trolls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savlyn View Post
    Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

    /sarcasm off.

    Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.
    I do higher than 60 cap all the time, and it is quite fun, perhaps its your server that sucks. Or you - I don't know, feel free to transfer and hang out with me, we can have lots of uncap fun.

    The fun being had most notably due to being forced to maximize limited areas of ones performance for the situation at hand by using a specific set of gear for your single opponent or enemy team. Having the greatest impact on hybrid jobs (DRK my love, RDM etc) forcing them to sacrifice defense for offensive/utility options (not getting resisted.)



    Rather than having say a Magical Sailor Scout Wardrobe bag that transforms me on command, it is quite fun and challenging to have to maximize 16 slots on the fly due to the situation at hand, your resources, your enemy's resources, your targets, what your avoiding, if your defending, scoring, or even dueling a specific job.

    It is even more rewarding that this game (thank god) doesn't have separate spheres for PvP and PvE armor but that PvE works to give us great tools for any job. After conquering Provenance or raiding to get that amazing drop/ or using synergy to finally get that +5 resist silence augment, or in Void Watch (or whatever), you can then use your Sanis Enis(sp) or Ephemeron/Ogier's Breeches/Meikira Meikogai to maximize your build and augment your strategy to fight your human foes.
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    Last edited by Urteil; 04-11-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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    It was the the prizes and not being able to obtain that prize.
    We get our own contests with our own prizes. It's fine.
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