Moogle egg

[Sarick]

We get our own contests with our own prizes. It's fine.

This is the same mentality that resulted in segregation in the USA back when laws protected bigots. The government basically stated that it was okay to segregate people as long as facilities where made for both parties. It didn't work out because one side was always lower quality. Don't try and sugar coat this it's obvious that other regions don't get the same quality or respect as the Japanese player base.

Simply put there is no difference the end result is still a type segregation no matter how you post.

[Alhanelem]

It's no more segregation than all other regionalization that exists in the world of video games.

There is nothing wrong with region specific events. You can use demon words like segregation all you want, but I really don't see the harm in this. This isn't the early to mid 1900s and people aren't being directly indirectly punished by this.

on't try and sugar coat this it's obvious that other regions don't get the same quality or respect as the Japanese player base.

In respect to events, I'm sorry but I don't agree. You and others are really getting panties bunched up for no good reason on this. Is a JP forum event telling people to find a certain spot in the game really a "higher quality" event than the more creativity-oriented events we've had in the past? Check out some of the awesome cakes, images, etc that people have created for NA contests in the past. The JP forum event was very static and uninspired by comparison. The only reason people are whining is because it involved doing something in the game. That doesn't automatically make it a superior event. When I consider this, I do not see NA players getting inferior forum events to the JP players and see no justification for the accusations of favoritism.

(Note that this is specifically in regards to the issue of this thread- There are other topic areas where I feel like there may actually be an issue like this)
People read way too dang far into things these days.

[Seiowan]

Moogles lay eggs? The mystery of Moogle reproduction has been solved! I always wondered how an apparently genderless species managed to populate Vanadiel in such numbers that every adventurer could have their own house Mog.

It's a good thing wyrms don't reproduce in such numbers or we'd be up to our eyeballs in Tiamat babies all looking for a tasty adventurer for their midday snacks...

[Sarick]

It's no more segregation than all other regionalization that exists in the world of video games.

There is nothing wrong with region specific events. You can use demon words like segregation all you want, but I really don't see the harm in this. This isn't the early to mid 1900s and people aren't being directly indirectly punished by this.

In respect to events, I'm sorry but I don't agree. You and others are really getting panties bunched up for no good reason on this. Is a JP forum event telling people to find a certain spot in the game really a "higher quality" event than the more creativity-oriented events we've had in the past? Check out some of the awesome cakes, images, etc that people have created for NA contests in the past. The JP forum event was very static and uninspired by comparison. The only reason people are whining is because it involved doing something in the game. That doesn't automatically make it a superior event. When I consider this, I do not see NA players getting inferior forum events to the JP players and see no justification for the accusations of favoritism.

(Note that this is specifically in regards to the issue of this thread- There are other topic areas where I feel like there may actually be an issue like this)
People read way too dang far into things these days.

With all do respect you missed the point entirely. I quoted when you said something about us getting our own events and rewards so everything is fine. The whole point is equality, everyone pays for this game even if they don't care about doing the special events they should have equal access. The damage control post takes a big dump on fairness by trying to candy coat things. This alone provided enough to prove a point. Based on the comment above where you think "People read way too dang far into things these days.", why did you even bother posting a response? It's simple ether you don't care about it or you do care.

Alhanelem, you seem like a reasonable intelligent person. You may not realize it but your first comment supports a passive aggressive/damage control of a type that defends unfairness. It is an insult to the intelligence of people who see things in a different perspective based on past experiences.

[Dazusu]

The whole point is equality, everyone pays for this game even if they don't care about doing the special events they should have equal access.

I don't remember that in the EULA I agreed to when I signed up to the game. If it was there, then maybe you'd have a case.

[Sarick]

I don't remember that in the EULA I agreed to when I signed up to the game. If it was there, then maybe you'd have a case.

What does the EULA have to do with this, I didn't mention legal obligations. I said "Should" I didn't say "is obligated." That makes a lot of difference don't you think? There's nothing wrong with someone having an opinion about making things equal in a moral sense. The problem is when someone who doesn't care plays devils advocate to candy coat an issue.

I did mention that everyone pays to play. In my opinion everyone who pays "should" be treated equally. It's true this company isn't obligated legally. They can easily cancel FFXI tomorrow and the players couldn't do much about it except, maybe request a small refund.

I'm simply trying to point out there have been a few concerns of bias in the past on these forums. A select few are constantly defending/making excuses in defense of backward thinking. In this case I assume people can understand that if it's such minor event why not give everyone the same opportunity in good faith?

See where I'm going here?

[Alhanelem]

Alhanelem, you seem like a reasonable intelligent person. You may not realize it but your first comment supports a passive aggressive/damage control of a type that defends unfairness. It is an insult to the intelligence of people who see things in a different perspective based on past experiences.

???
They're not being passive/aggressive, and they're not defending unfairness, because it's not unfair. If I agreed that it really was unfair, then you might have a point- but whether it's fair or not is a matter of opinion.

People are crying "UNFAIR!" because the JP's event involved finding an NPC they hid somewhere? Is that really so fun and exciting that whatever they might give us would automatically pale in comparison?
How about reserving some judgement for when the next forum event comes up before jumping to conclusions?

I'm simply trying to point out there have been a few concerns of bias in the past on these forums.

Concerns are fine- prejudging and assuming what you think is the truth is not.

[Sarick]

???
They're not being passive/aggressive, and they're not defending unfairness, because it's not unfair. If I agreed that it really was unfair, then you might have a point- but whether it's fair or not is a matter of opinion.

oncerns are fine- prejudging and assuming what you think is the truth is not.

A question near the end of my comment was.

"In this case I assume people can understand that if it's such minor event why not give everyone the same opportunity in good faith?"

I think that sentence speaks for itself.

[Alhanelem]

They will be giving us our own event. We will get our good faith opportunity.

[Sarick]

They will be giving us our own event. We will get our good faith opportunity.

You said this as though it's fact.. Reminds me of this quote below.

Concerns are fine- prejudging and assuming what you think is the truth is not.

So we've come full circle. This reminds me of the next quote. >>

We get our own contests with our own prizes. It's fine.

The above quotes are relatively the same "It's Fine" opinion as the first quote. It's trying to make everything look pointless. That defense is flawed you said so yourself whats fair is a matter of opinion in a previous post. There is also blind faith that whats assumed is already fact.

People are crying "UNFAIR!" because the JP's event involved finding an NPC they hid somewhere? Is that really so fun and exciting that whatever they might give us would automatically pale in comparison?
How about reserving some judgement for when the next forum event comes up before jumping to conclusions?

Events are like movies, Transformers and Mission Impossible are both movies but they technically aren't the same. In this topic, the JP players had an egg hunt. Good faith is an egg hunt not a PVP or a cake baking contest. To classify these as equals is a matter of personal opinion. These can't truly be compared because they aren't really the same. Somehow you don't seem to understand this because from what I'm reading all events no matter what the content are the same and it doesn't really matter.

Alhanelem, The above quotes show how one sided this argument is when they're used as a defense. I've been rational about my reasoning. The players who are upset are because to them they've been excluded. You might not feel the same entitlement however, the comments you've made more or less imply that the other posters arguments are without value. This is apparently your only defense. From my perspective it's seems personal to you that people are upset and they obviously aren't being reasonable.

Let me finish by saying this. These players including me, have every right to complain. Being apathetic about the emotional side others express doesn't help the argument. It's a devils advocate playing damage control over minor details that can't cause harm by ignoring them. If you want to help just drop the "It's fine" attitude and let people be upset. The only thing you've managed to do escalate the issue by respectfully saying "SHUT UP PEOPLE". If this was something that you needed to defend like an in game nerf I'd be more inclined to understand your reasoning but, it's not.