Polearm Decision Woes

[Tannlore]

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but my access to fellow dragons is limited.

I currently use a Vougier's Contus, but I've been considering starting a magian polearm. Any recommendations on which one to start? Should I go for the gimperian or one of the other ones? And yes.. emp/relic/mythic not an option atm.

[Ophannus]

The Occasionally Attacks Twice Corsesca. I get OAT proc on Jumps giving me 80-120 TP per Spirit/Soul Jump and I DA about 55-60ish% of the time. Weapon Skills will be weaker than Vougier's Contus but you will probably output about twice as many Drakesbanes over time. When OAT doesn't proc, Jumps will do about 50-80 damage less, but when it procs they will do 300-400 more(along with massive TP)

[Tannlore]

I'm guessing this one here?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Trial_2471

Looks simple enough, thanks!

[Ophannus]

Actually, I mean this one: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Trial_2469

[noodles355]

Echoing Ophannus, OAT polearm (not OA2-4) is not only the best magian polearm, but the best non-empy/relic/mythic polearm.

[Ophannus]

Right, though it has beaten Gungnir up until they boosted it's ODD rate to ridiculous quantities with the 95 version. It used to be better than Gungnir but now Gungnir has like a 15-20% ODD without aftermath or something I've heard. I still think it out performs even Rhongomiant in most situations just because of the ridiculous amounts of TP you get. No joke, with that polearm, 26% haste and a 5 hit build, you are looking to WS almost every few seconds. On Voidwatch, my WS aren't the strongest(typically dealing like 800-1800 even with temps compared to like 3k+ Ukkos, however I WS so often that I do infact end up stealing hate often so I sometimes have excess TP overflow when Super Jump isn't up and I have to hold back my WSing.

[Mirage]

I think I'll make me one of these as well. I sort of had a fire path polearm planned, but if this is better, this is what i'll get.

[Ophannus]

Yeah the WS is awesome but the trial sucks. I was on the Blobdingnag trial for months because I kept wiping so I started to shout for people with orange abyssites and paid them 200k to pop(many MNKs have them from camping Lamprey Lord) and I would hire a THF and a Kannagi NIN and WHM dual box to do Blobdingnag with me. He's kind of annoying to fight if you deal too much damage. I recommend a VERY good Kannagi NIN/DNC. Have the NIN never WS, only use TP for Waltzes and Steps. If you do too much damage, it will do too many Cytokinesis's in succession, each one spawning 6 babies and you'll be overwhelmed. So the NIN would save TP and use it to quickly kill babies while I (the RDM/SCH) would quickly nuke the babies down. You could get a BLM to nuke them down but if you go too fast, he'll run out of MP(also the babies hit hard/fast and rapes BLMs's manawall and stoneskin fast, and they're immmune to bind/grav/sleep/stun). Alternitevly a WAR could probably fell cleave the babies. Bring a THF for TH cuz you need 10 of those blobs. Good setup is WHM NIN THF and either a WAR or BLM to aoe the babies fast.

[Satisiun]

Bumping this up because I have a question.

Would you say the OA2 is a better polearm than the +9 DA? I ask because with my current gear roll-out, I already have something like +21% Double Attack (31% if I sub Warrior). Considering that the +9 DA has a higher DMG rating, wouldn't it be worthwhile to consider getting the +9 and having a nice, modestly high 30-40% DA rating that also procs during weaponskills, as compared to a 50% (just throwing a number out) proc on just normal attacks with also a lower DMG rating (OA2 is something like 110, while the DA+9 is around 132 or so)?

[Ophannus]

No. Also, you shouln't be having that much DA gear in your TP set unless you're doing something really wrong i.e haste isn't capped or not enough STP for a 5hit.