[dev1103] The problem with Voidwatch Final Chapter

[Vagrua]

Rounding up a party/alliance through shouts/yells doesn't necessarily mean you can complete them. After getting the people together, there's always a chance they will leave, go afk, etc. Losing your tanks or healers can ruin the entire alliance.

Without a Linkshell to run with, you're never guaranteed anything.

I do agree with the OP, in a sense, that everyone should be able to experience this content because of the point I stated above.

The arguments mentioned in this thread about other content relying on clears to proceed further don't point out that it's almost all soloable and duoable now. Voidwatch is a different story.

[Rezeak]

The only issue imo is that you can't get credit for fight you've done until you've go the stratum.

Outside that VW has a storyline and the final fight require you go though the entire storyline like with every other story line.

imo i'm glad SE went this direction with the game combining story line and endgame it's sad to see fun fight like Alexander be killed once and forgotten this way theys no lack of help for story content.

As a side note in 1 day i did all T1-4 Bastok, Windy and Sandy for a friend these fight are a joke now (so is all of T1-5 jeuno minus 1 or 2 fights)

[Gatrie]

I guess you failed to read the og post or the one above you. They clearly explain why this is a big deal.

Listen to what you are saying... 4hrs is nothing compared to some of the time people have put into the game. By the new player base, I understand how this may seem like forever to you. But deal with it! You want to great, omg, wow items put the effort in for them.

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea to make the game EASIER than it is... You are talking about developers that made a mob unbeatable for 7+ years, why would they hand everything to you on a silver platter now? My opinion, bash on it all you like can almost guarantee nothing will change.

[Mahoro]

I still think the closest analogy is Shinryu. Abyssea zones were open to all, everyone was fighting in them, then SE tied a storyline to certain mobs that had to be beaten and certain CS's in order to reach the final zone of Abyssea. Then people did them, even though they weren't constantly being killed or shouted for, and in a month or two, Shinryu access was a joke.

So too, Provenance access will be.

[Alhanelem]

How Final Fantasy XI has changed... Lv.1-10 naked 20mins, Lv.10-30 BB leech spot(400k) AFK naked 5 hours, Lv.30-95 Abyssea leech spot(1mil)

If you have to pay gil to level up, then you don't have any friends. Sorry.

[Krashport]

If you have to pay gil to level up, then you don't have any friends. Sorry.

I totally agree! lol

[Sfchakan]

Everything is fine. Nothing is wrong with it. Go do the per-requisites and stop complaining. Don't see a shout? Shout yourself and get it done.

[Kaych]

The only problem I have is that they wrote this:
"The summoner ability Modus Veritas will not trigger enemy weaknesses."

Just lol -.-

[Alhanelem]

Everything is fine. Nothing is wrong with it. Go do the per-requisites and stop complaining. Don't see a shout? Shout yourself and get it done.

Strong Bad (looking at note taped on monitor): "Everything is fine, nothing is ruined. Oh, well that's goo- WAIT A MINUITE" (tears note off revealing BSOD) "Flagrant error?!?! That's not a good sign!" ... "And the compy, just peed my carpet."

[detlef]

I still think the closest analogy is Shinryu. Abyssea zones were open to all, everyone was fighting in them, then SE tied a storyline to certain mobs that had to be beaten and certain CS's in order to reach the final zone of Abyssea. Then people did them, even though they weren't constantly being killed or shouted for, and in a month or two, Shinryu access was a joke.

So too, Provenance access will be.

There are few notable differences. You can duo any Abyssea zone boss. People were killing them for Empy anyway so there was a very good chance you could just show up at the zone and get a free win.

You could also kill them in any order. I'm sure there are people who have killed every single VW NM but are screwed because they had the gall to kill them in the wrong order.