Legion...

[MarkovChain]

Salvage will come out, everyone will spam mythics, and the gear will be better than the unfound items so far. This reminds me of certain bodies in voidwatch. The moment they released the previous tiers they inlcuded the dats of nyzlulz gear on the test server making it clear that it was not the effort. People want realistic rewards for their effort. They didn't include additonal gear with the mini update, there fore most of the unfound gear is in voidwatch, period. I saw a lot of QQ because you had to get 5 drops from ADl to complete a relic, but I don't see much from this cheap event (hnms in morion hotoruto ruins)

[Mahoro]

Yeah, that's why nobody does VW for the bodies anymore. Oh wait...

And "spamming" mythics/Salvage eh? Must have missed that update.

They've already discovered some drops in Provenance. They all have a certain "theme".

[Fupafighter]

Just because gear will come out 6 months from now, doesn't mean we are going to wait 6 months, when we don't even know if the gear will be better. For all we know, the armor we have for certain slots in VW and legion will be the best until like a future update a year from now. Why the hell would we stop trying to get stuff now?....

[MarkovChain]

It's not the best most of it is vastly inferior to AF3+2 and nyzul.

[MarkovChain]

Drachenhorn, A'as Circlet, Ngen Seraweels, Esper Earring, Adamas, Samis Ensis, and the Legion item that allows one to augment items such as Iaso Boots? Yes, i realize none of those items are for MNk and will not allow you to kill ADL in 0.045 seconds faster..

Oh look, not much left now. Let me guess :

meteor
arise
craft mats augments (are they even rare ex or are they sellable)

Back to nyzlulz girls.

[Mahoro]

Dude, I know English comprehension isn't your strong suit, but those were EXAMPLES. You even specifically left out the first part of that sentence that indicates that I was giving examples of a larger subset. I am not going to teach you English. What I am also not going to do is sit here and physically list each remaining undiscovered DAT. I'll leave that to people like you, who seem to exert a sense of schadenfreude in every single post in this thread for an event you clearly don't care about. Let me bold this one: your continual disturbing glee in posting in this thread tells us more about you than anything you are actually saying. You also don't even seem to be able to discover the answer to a rudimentary question about the Synergy augment item, even though you waste enough time posting in here.

You talk about AF3+2 and Nyzul equipment as if one should only be clearing that and attempting NOTHING else in this game, barring lowmanning ADL with a party of Empy MNKs for the express purpose of selling to earn more money. I've got news for you. Money can't buy certain ra/ex equipment. People are mostly capped on AF3+2. Nyzul is a short event on a tag timer. I will be doing it myself for Nares gear. But there is nothing wrong with people doing other content in the downtime to get certain pieces or scrolls that don't come from Nyzul. The farming of one event is NOT mutually exclusive to the farming of another, unless your total playtime is severely restricted. Except in Pchan's world, where if you aren't "spamming" once-a-day tagged content or a 2-hour time limit zone, you are apparently wasting your time.

However many good items Legion ends up having (and right now it appears to be skewed more toward premier mage pieces/scrolls), since Legion is LS content and not PUG friendly, any balanced LS will incorporate this event in the mix of other more melee-rewarding events. As a leader in one of the few large LS's left on my server who can do this content, I will expressly schedule this into the mix. I have expressly scheduled something like Dynamis Jeuno and Dynamis Beaucedine as an event, if for no other reason than because some of our best-attending members wanted Oneiros Grips/Avesta Bangles. These are the same members who attend ADL events for our melee without complaint. Indeed, the fact that Meteor and Arise MIGHT drop in Legion makes it reason enough for my LS to do the content. That's because we actually have an interest in gearing out EVERYONE in our LS, rather than just the tiny shouting Empy MNK who can't kill ADL 0.45 seconds faster with anything the event drops.

All that being said, and to get this thread back on topic for Camate, I am STILL in great support of increasing the time limit on this event to 45 minutes, which I feel is quite reasonable and comparable to an event like WoE which is MUCH MUCH easier.

[MarkovChain]

Wall of text to explain us it is worth spamming a crap event with 36 for meteor, that apparently doesn't even come from there. Hahaha. You are a little mad I think that I am correct from day one one this (as usual). Can't seriously compare adl do this - on one side you can get the best weapons for your melees, and on the other side only sidegrades if you are lucky on synth. Where are all the QQs that wanted to remove AF2 random augments ?

[saevel]

All that being said, and to get this thread back on topic for Camate, I am STILL in great support of increasing the time limit on this event to 45 minutes, which I feel is quite reasonable and comparable to an event like WoE which is MUCH MUCH easier.

Increasing the time to 45min and possibly reducing the HP of the NM's a bit. The fact people are talking about needing empy DD's to clear the first three in 30min is telling enough. SE said they didn't want to make content that required the best geared players to complete, this event screams needing the best just to get a pass. I like that it's tailored for LS's and large groups of pre-organized players who are comfortable playing with each other, I feel that was really missing in this game. Just need them to make it a bit more achievable.

[Mahoro]

Wall of text to explain us it is worth spamming a crap event with 36 for meteor, that apparently doesn't even come from there. Hahaha. You are a little mad I think that I am correct from day one one this (as usual). Can't seriously compare adl do this - on one side you can get the best weapons for your melees, and on the other side only sidegrades if you are lucky on synth. Where are all the QQs that wanted to remove AF2 random augments ?

1) A wall of text is an internet meme used to describe posts that are devoid of all organization, punctuation, or paragraph structure. Not posts that are clearly delineated, with headings or themes highlighted, and with proper punctuation. You might as well call a book a wall of text. Judging by your response, you probably approach either with equal revulsion.

2) Don't mistake a long argument in response to be "umad".

3) Even if Meteor comes from Provenance Watcher, as was rumored today, nothing you said negates anything in my post regarding how any balanced LS will mix in other events with Legion for the premier mage pieces/melee sidegrades and/or Arise (if the scroll comes from there). The farming of one event on a timed (Dynamis), tagged (Nyzul) basis does not exclude the farming of another event, unless your playtime is so severely restricted that you can only play a half hour or hour a day.

4) If Meteor truly comes from Provenance Watcher, I will actually CHEER, since I believe Legion in its current state REQUIRES an idealized alliance setup of 2 supercharged buffed melee parties, a tank party, 12 BLM's with Meteor, and a ranged damage party. I was worried that the event was caught in a Catch 22, that the event itself drops Meteor yet you need multiple max-power Meteors to even have a hope of clearing the massive HP pools of the mobs.

[MarkovChain]

Yes it does exlcude anything, doing multiple events as a linkshell (like apparently some FFXI dinausaurus STILL do) implies that noby progresses.

Do you have a level 99 relic ?
Do you have a level 99 empy ?
Do you have a full set of Nyzul gear ?

No. A signle dynamis run is 2 hours, people need money for basic neeeds, we all know how those 36-man-linkshell end up. Robbery everywhere, leader get shit first, anything SE wanted to avoid. You have been explaing us that the guy that wants oneiros grip has to farm this shit serveral times a week to please your BLMs, then ADL to please your melees, then random VW fights to please your gimps that can't farm gil for metal plates ?

So yes I'm 100% certain on how this event is going to end. It's about the same shit as woe V2.