CHARGE ME MORE $$$

[hideka]

heres the break down

average subscription is 13 dollars. each server has an average of 2000 active accounts.
thats 26,000 dollars PER server per month.
with 10 servers ( i think thats arround what we have active right now)
we put up 260k
in one year 3.1MILLION DOLLARS.

theres about 10 devs TOPS working for this game, each probably salraied arround 50k/Y. so 500k for development costs. GMs make minimum wage most likely, and theres about 10 of them probably. thats another 200k. the FF Support people probably have another 20 people working for them, making it 400k.

so SE grosses 3.1Million, Net losses to wages are arround 1.1Million, server maintenance probably runs about 300k/ Year.

so where is that other 1.7 million dollars per year going? because its certianly NOT going into developing FF11 further.
my honest to goodness hypothesis is its going to FF14.

[Kimble]

heres the break down

average subscription is 13 dollars. each server has an average of 2000 active accounts.
thats 26,000 dollars PER server per month.
with 10 servers ( i think thats arround what we have active right now)
we put up 260k
in one year 3.1MILLION DOLLARS.

theres about 10 devs TOPS working for this game, each probably salraied arround 50k/Y. so 500k for development costs. GMs make minimum wage most likely, and theres about 10 of them probably. thats another 200k. the FF Support people probably have another 20 people working for them, making it 400k.

so SE grosses 3.1Million, Net losses to wages are arround 1.1Million, server maintenance probably runs about 300k/ Year.

so where is that other 1.7 million dollars per year going? because its certianly NOT going into developing FF11 further.
my honest to goodness hypothesis is its going to FF14.

Yeah, I guess NONE of that money went to develop XIII or XIII-2 or XIII versus, or X HD or any of the other games they have made in the time of XI.

[RAIST]

Yeah, I guess NONE of that money went to develop XIII or XIII-2 or XIII versus, or X HD or any of the other games they have made in the time of XI.

Are you even aware just how big of an operation they are now? They are spread out all over the place. Finallized the buyout of the last division of Eidos just last year I think, and now own the Tomb Raider franchise as well.

They have PLENTY of revenue streams coming in to help fund new projects. This is an ONGOING project that SHOULD be funding itself at this point.

2011 Annual reports
(just a little light reading for those who care to actual have some idea of what SE has going for it now--kinda puts it all in perspective when you see the bigger picture)

[Kimble]

Are you even aware just how big of an operation they are now? They are spread out all over the place. Finallized the buyout of the last division of Eidos just last year I think, and now own the Tomb Raider franchise as well.

They have PLENTY of revenue streams coming in to help fund new projects. This is an ONGOING project that SHOULD be funding itself at this point.

2011 Annual reports
(just a little light reading for those who care to actual have some idea of what SE has going for it now--kinda puts it all in perspective when you see the bigger picture)

My point is, no matter what people think, the money you spend is going to be used for many different things, so its very short sighted to believe the fees you pay for XI would ONLY go back into XI. I highly doubt they keep it all separate. Its not like they own several different things where that money stays in different areas. IE Sony with TVs, Blu-Rays, Gaming, all those would be separate because they are different things.

[RAIST]

My point is, no matter what people think, the money you spend is going to be used for many different things, so its very short sighted to believe the fees you pay for XI would ONLY go back into XI. I highly doubt they keep it all separate. Its not like they own several different things where that money stays in different areas. IE Sony with TVs, Blu-Rays, Gaming, all those would be separate because they are different things.

And our point is that FFXI is a BIG revenue generator and should be getting more attention. Nearly every <sensible>business will acknowledge that a high revenue generating project deserves to have a considerable amount of it's profits reinvested to maintain/improve that project--whether that is more personnel or upgrading equipment, etc. needed to improve the QoS or efficiency.

Did you even go through any of the financial statements? Over $60 Million USD (over 5 Billion Yen) in recurring revenue.

Would be interesting to see just how much of that is from FFXI subs.

[Washburn]

i see 2200 logged on at one time fairly often, i'd say a more accurate number would be around 5000

[Nala]

free? hell no, but we shouldn't have to pay full price either for a half the original dev team size, and this slack ass excuse of an understanding our current one holds over, how the game works, how the game is played, how actual game mechanics work and maybe study some laws of probability while at it it before they decide to continue thier retarded romance with R.N.G.'s

[Prothscar]

Paying $12+ a month for shit updates like the one we're getting today is rather unacceptable imo. Either step up the game or cut our subscription fee.

[Eri]

Paying $12+ a month for shit updates like the one we're getting today is rather unacceptable imo. Either step up the game or cut our subscription fee.

For me Todays update is interesting More interesting than the last ones lol
So like don't QQ everyone gets an Update they like... eventually...

[Elexia]

Paying $12+ a month for shit updates like the one we're getting today is rather unacceptable imo. Either step up the game or cut our subscription fee.

Or quit, there's that option too. "Paying $12 a month is unacceptable, make better updates or cut the fees, I'll be damned if I stop paying for something I find unacceptable..YOU FIX IT!"