[dev1102] Meteor had better be obtainable!

[Mahoro]

There are several problems with implementation here:
1) Most Black Mages will never obtain Meteor, given the current drop rate and source.
2) You need most Black Mages (essentially all the ones you bring to an event) to have Meteor in order for it to be useful.
3a) Most linkshells don't do content that would inspire them to bring enough Black Mages right now to make this spell superior to Thundaja.
3b) It is only useful in Legion.
4) There hasn't been a real reason to have a "good BLM" for the last year+, and most people have spent their time collecting finery for other jobs. Thus your best players are often better off on those other jobs, which means you would have to give meteor to worse players in order for it to ever see any use.

Don't really agree with #4. BLM remains a standard at most events, and I think your generalization about "most people" is because DD jobs are more popular as a whole. The difference between mediocre BLMs and good BLMs is quite noticeable at something like Provenance Watcher and Kalasutrax and other Naraka. I will leave out the obvious benefit in Legion since you addressed that in 3b (to which I mostly agree although I can think of a few other situations in which it would be useful).

[detlef]

{ice}BLU5

you're right, that was absolutely horrendous to type. Clearly that's too much to ask of a Japanese bro.

I'm not really saying it's hard. But they don't do it unless they absolutely have to (see my example with the BLU).

[Babekeke]

*cough* Arise *cough*

Probably the same availability imo

But when 1 WHM in your LS gets Arise, it's useful.

[Alhanelem]

Hey guess what guys, meteor isn't obtainable.

[Sparthos]

Meteor and Arise also drop in Legion according to SE.

Not that anyone is getting past wave 2 anytime soon but the carrot is on the stick.

[Helel]

Don't really agree with #4. BLM remains a standard at most events, and I think your generalization about "most people" is because DD jobs are more popular as a whole. The difference between mediocre BLMs and good BLMs is quite noticeable at something like Provenance Watcher and Kalasutrax and other Naraka. I will leave out the obvious benefit in Legion since you addressed that in 3b (to which I mostly agree although I can think of a few other situations in which it would be useful).

BLM may be standard but gear is completely irrelevant, which is Byrth's point. BLM is only useful for procs. If your BLM is doing "good" damage on kalasutrax and PW (relative to other jobs) then there is something seriously wrong with your alliance.

[Alkimi]

I always do good damage on Voidwatch NMs on BLM. We usually have 2-3 BLMs and assign them different spells, once we hit a HV trigger I'll chain-nuke Thundaja > Thunder V > Burst II > Firaja > Fire V and then go back to looking for triggers.

That's 20k damage in about 20 seconds, hardly irrelevant and there's nothing wrong with our alliances. There's nothing wrong with BLMs adding some extra damage.

[Byrth]

I do the same, but the difference between doing 15k damage and 20k damage isn't worth the time it would take me to make 7 affinity staves. It was a different story when I used to solo things and having the best gear meant the difference between chain 3 and chain 6.

[Mahoro]

BLM may be standard but gear is completely irrelevant, which is Byrth's point. BLM is only useful for procs. If your BLM is doing "good" damage on kalasutrax and PW (relative to other jobs) then there is something seriously wrong with your alliance.

Mentioned Prov Watcher and Naraka for Stun. Appropriate staff, dark magic gear, etc. Didn't mention total dmg.

[Asymptotic]

BLM can stun everything in VW with a NQ thunder staff, capped skill, and AF3+2.