[dev1102] Meteor had better be obtainable!

[Zumi]

Apparently drops from T3 Zilart and T2 CoP VWs, probably T6 Jeuno and some ToAU too.

People getting carried away with 40-55 mil scrolls in bazaars, but none appeared on the AH yet.

There hasn't been any screenshot proof of this. People who have the scroll can lie about where they got it from so they can monopolize the market. Pics or it didn't happen.

Still unconfirmed until we actually get some proof.

[Elexia]

You wouldn't play the game if everything was easy to get.

Isn't this why WoW, Rift and SWTOR are successful?

[Camiie]

Isn't this why WoW, Rift and SWTOR are successful?

They strike a decent BALANCE between accessibility, reward/effort, and fun. FFXI pretty much only does that in Abyssea.

[Sparthos]

They strike a decent BALANCE between accessibility, reward/effort, and fun. FFXI pretty much only does that in Abyssea.

BALANCE.

Get that word off these forums.

[Rezeak]

BALANCE.

Get that word off these forums.

SE started it lol

[MarkovChain]

Isn't this why WoW, Rift and SWTOR are successful?

SWTOR is a solo game, it's nice, but just solo. Can't compare it to FFXI. There is no sense of achievement for instance when abtaining gear in swtor, except maybe level 50 but I didn't have the patience to go there. SE can take advice from swtor, but not for it's MMO though. For their non MMMO FF, sure, that would break the linearity of previous games. I did not play the other ones, but at least for swtor I'm sure they completely different concept of what an MMO is. On swtor you go on a planet do random quest solo, and still get gear along the way without having to team up (nearly). Occasionnally you can team up side quests(small number of player.. not 36), but really, it's not needed.

[Fredjan]

There hasn't been any screenshot proof of this. People who have the scroll can lie about where they got it from so they can monopolize the market. Pics or it didn't happen.

Still unconfirmed until we actually get some proof.

Same thing is happening with Arise, people are trolling about it coming from Qilin. As far as I'm concerned, those bazaars on FFXIAH are just "listing the scroll" to troll. There are ZERO reported findings of either scroll, anywhere.

In the end, POIDH. These spells are epic (Saw a FFXIAH comment about 95-99 scrolls coming from upper tier VW, that is true, but it's also a general statement, and it's likely that Arise AND Meteor will be different. Qilin isn't upper tier VW, it's level 95 content), coming from VW in the current situation...yeah, I don't think so. My gil's on Legion or the final VW chapter (lol if that ends up being the case, considering it's not even out yet...).

[Tamoa]

(Saw a FFXIAH comment about 95-99 scrolls coming from upper tier VW, that is true, but it's also a general statement, and it's likely that Arise AND Meteor will be different. Qilin isn't upper tier VW, it's level 95 content

Those scrolls are also possible drops in several HKCNMs (KCNMs too? not sure) as well as vwnms. Meteor and Arise does not drop from Zilart t3s/Jeuno T6s, guaranteed.

People getting carried away with 40-55 mil scrolls in bazaars, but none appeared on the AH yet.

Those FFXIAH bazaars mean nothing, anyone can list anything in their bazaar there, doesn't mean they actually have the item.

[Miera]

I bet it's either going to drop on VW and have like a craptastic drop rate or drops from Pandemonium Warden, either way I smell a pain in the butt coming along.

[Fredjan]

Those scrolls are also possible drops in several HKCNMs (KCNMs too? not sure) as well as vwnms. Meteor and Arise does not drop from Zilart t3s/Jeuno T6s, guaranteed.

Oh I agree.

Not to mention WoE flues 12-15 for 96+ scrolls and the other ones are obtainable from earlier fluxes. I'm not sure about fluxes 1-7, but I know 8-11 dropped 90-95 scrolls.

If Meteor/Arise had similar "obtainment", there'd be scrolls on the AH already, even if there's been no sales. There wasn't a ton of level 96-99 magic, but I know it was obtainable from Jeuno T4-T6 (and now WoE fluxes 12-15). tl;dr's:
- They don't drop from CoP/ToAU VW. If they do, it's highly unlikely.
- They don't drop from Jeuno T6s.
- They DEFINITELY don't drop from Zilart T3's (Hi level 95 content).
- They most likely do NOT drop in WoE.

The likely options, as I said, are Legion (Hall of Mul, would fit their "extremely difficult to obtain" theme I guess) or Provenance.