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  1. #91
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Most JP, while being taught english and even use a few words of it in playing video games, are not FLUENT in English. They might know enough for a conversation, but if you're not confident in your ability, you don't use it for risk of offending the other person. I studied French, and I live in an area where a lof of french speaking people visit, but I never actually speak in french, even when the other person doesn't speak english.

    First, the entire game uses roman letters for certain things, such as the three letter job codes.
    The JP client does not use those abbriviations. Though they are well understood, they're not used by the game on the JP client.
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    There can only be one meteor-lander!
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  3. #93
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It's really pretty ridiculous to release a spell that needs to be cast by 5-6 people to be useful, but make the scroll so rare that you've got to have friends in high places to ever round up that many people who actually have the spell to cast it.
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  4. #94
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    JPs will by and large not invite NAs to do VW. Autotranslating weaknesses is too much; I remember the only reason I got into a particular Akvan alliance was because there was a 2nd BRD to handle all the procs. A friend of mine was invited (they must've been desperate for BLU) and I stuck some of the PT chat into google translate and they basically said "oh boy that's BLU is going to be trouble."

    I'm completely on board with the notion that JPs very much prefer to deal only with other JPs. And I'm not even hating on it, because communication is a real issue.

    Oh, we're talking about Meteor? Yeah, make it drop more.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    JPs will by and large not invite NAs to do VW. Autotranslating weaknesses is too much; I remember the only reason I got into a particular Akvan alliance was because there was a 2nd BRD to handle all the procs. A friend of mine was invited (they must've been desperate for BLU) and I stuck some of the PT chat into google translate and they basically said "oh boy that's BLU is going to be trouble."
    {ice}BLU5

    you're right, that was absolutely horrendous to type. Clearly that's too much to ask of a Japanese bro.
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    It really depends. Some of them use auto translate, some will only say procs in kanji.
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    There are several problems with implementation here:
    1) Most Black Mages will never obtain Meteor, given the current drop rate and source.
    2) You need most Black Mages (essentially all the ones you bring to an event) to have Meteor in order for it to be useful.
    3a) Most linkshells don't do content that would inspire them to bring enough Black Mages right now to make this spell superior to Thundaja.
    3b) It is only useful in Legion.
    4) There hasn't been a real reason to have a "good BLM" for the last year+, and most people have spent their time collecting finery for other jobs. Thus your best players are often better off on those other jobs, which means you would have to give meteor to worse players in order for it to ever see any use.
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    Last edited by Byrth; 04-17-2012 at 12:03 AM.

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The JP client does not use those abbriviations. Though they are well understood, they're not used by the game on the JP client.
    It does in player search, since the command line uses roman letters (JP players still have to use /ma, etc). On equipment it uses one-character (usually kanji) abbreviations, such as mages having the kanji for red, white, black, or blue. When you use /sea and get the window full of results, the JP client still uses NIN, BRD, etc for player jobs and subjobs.
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    So it seems that changes to both spirits, and wyverns have been put on hold because of Meteor.
    If it turns out that Meteor is then only obtainable as a 0.0000001% drop from final VW chapter, I'm sure I won't be the only person feeling somewhat annoyed, and I hope that the dev team will realise that they've been wasting their time making sure that a spell that 6 people can cast will work properly, if it takes a month to see 6 people that can cast it that are even on the same server!

    Maybe I'm just being pessamistic, but we can only go on past performances.
    *cough* Arise *cough*

    Probably the same availability imo
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  10. #100
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    They damn well should have made it a quest. BLM talks to Shantotto of the past somewhere (not like SE cares for consistency anymore), she drops a meteor on you, you're left with a scar, you can now use meteor when you activate Manawell, Elemental Seal or during Manafont.

    That would be much better because then it wouldn't be rare for the sake of rare. Sure it's iconic and everything, but it's not worth all of the logs you get in the process.
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